Pakistan? That is HILARIOUS. Sorry, but, from what I can tell, they have open and free elections. As far as religious oppression, since they are 97% Muslim, the general population is perfectly OK with religious oppression.
Sorry, but I am not buying this one.
The reasons are different. Seatbelts help save from from an accident when it happens. Guns can save your country from an oppressive government if one happens.
The differences are clear. Driving on the right vs. left is an arbitrary choice. It prevents nobody from driving, and which side of the road that you drive on will not protect you from your own government.
The fact that some countries have banned guns and have not become oppressive yet is not a guarantee that this is always the case.
Besides, this is moot. In America, we HAVE the 2nd amendment, which is the law of the land, and it will stay the law of the land until it is repealed. If you want to repeal it, go ahead and start a movement. Until then, do not undermine the Constitution.
Well, yes, the UKâs murder rate of 1 per 100,000 inhabitants, compared to 4.7 per 100,000 in the US, does seem rather to indicate that we have a grip on the problem. Of course we arenât keen to encourage young hoodlums to run about with knives. That proves nothing.
You have apparently failed to grasp the nature of oppression, so perhaps itâs a little clearer why you cite it so often in defence of gun ownership. Lax regulation of firearms certainly isnât helping the Christians that regularly get lynched on the basis of accusations of âblasphemyâ to defend themselves from oppression.
As for âundermining the Constitutionâ - the First Amendment protects US citizens right to do precisely that. And just because youâve enshrined the right to bear arms in law (in some form) doesnât mean itâs automatically a good idea - after all, a government did it!
In case you havenât been watching, the US already has an oppressive government.
Mike Brown - Killed because the cop said he was reaching for something in his waistband
John Crawford - Killed for carrying a BB gun in a store.
Tamir Rice - Killed for playing with an airsoft gun
Rumain Brisbon - Killed because the cop thought a pill-bottle was a gun
Perhaps I missed the memo, when did the NRA release a statement in support of any of these men/children gunned down by oppressive government officials?
So youâre saying that as long as the government is democratically elected and they only persecute religious minorities then it doesnât count as an âoppressive government?â
Do I even need to explain how bonkers that is? Because I will totally Godwin the fuck out of this thread if I have to.
Hi. Please provide comprehensive responses to all the points raised in this video. Until then, just admit you like guns and donât care about the safety of others.
PS: lol knives and clubs⌠always with the knives and clubs.
I continue to disagree, but as I mentioned earlier, I donât have the energy for this argument. If youâre ever in Southern Indiana though, Iâd happily buy you one of our fine brews.
Apparently Kevin is happy with that position (yes, you read it right: the âaxis of evilâ Iran is a full 10 positions more safe. Meanwhile this is where Australia, New Zealand and the UK fall on that list. Canada ranks 46, for a comparison of another english-speaking North American country.
I understand what heâs saying but it doesnât stand up to scrutiny. The capacity to take someoneâs life at the press of a button is precisely the problem. Attacking someone isnât a walk in the park, and the victimâs fighting/self-defence ability is impossible for an attacker to know before the attack. A gun facilitates killing at the drop of a hat and from distance.
The last point that Jeffries makes in the video I posted (muskets are cool cause they give you a lot of time to calm down) extends to any weapon that isnât instantly fired and quickly loaded. You canât stop humans from wanting to kill each other sometimes, but taking away the capacity to do it on impulse will undeniably reduce the murder rate.
In any case, if these NRA deadshits were confident in the validity of their argument they wouldnât be opposed to a trial period to test it out. If they agreed to this they could in the end claim that their contention was true, but since they know that the contention isnât true theyâd never agree to a trial period.
PS: these figures may merely relate to Americans being a killy bunch, but my point is that if that were my country on that position in the list, Iâd be pretty willing to try anything to fix it (or just move to a place that doesnât suck ass).
Wait, youâre in Southern Indiana? And there are good brews? Where? (A friend was just trapped in Indianapolis for two weeks and reported finding decent micro-brews. I was stunned. I heard reports of good cocktails there somewhere but was unable to find them. Theyâre well hidden in Bloomington, but I turned up a few. But I may have to make one or more family visits to Eâville in the near future, and even if I can borrow a car, I was unaware that there was anything drinkable to be had in the area. The drinks at Western Ribeye left⌠something to be desired, letâs say that.)
Three Floyds is pretty good, though if youâve already tried it, you obviously already donât like it. I donât think Upland is bad, but maybe Iâm missing something. I keep saying Iâm going to try Carsonâs line, but I havenât gotten around to it. Iâm skeptical of Bloomingtonâs cocktail prowess, itâs contaminated by college bars, but Iâm not a big cocktail person anyway.
Because as long as the discourse is on that field, the creeping authoritarianists and do-gooders and busybodies and securocrats are too busy with guns to care about my lockable-blade multitool knife. Because if I have the choice between being legal and not cutting my fingers by accidental folding of the blade, I will always choose the latter.
The added risk of getting shot is worth the benefit of not getting in trouble for a blade, and it is somewhere deep in the statistical noise when compared with other risks, double so when you avoid places with known gang infestation.
Support what is controversial today, so the stuff you really care about wonât become the controversial one tomorrow.
