maggiekb at December 27th, 2013 13:15 — #1
crenquis at December 27th, 2013 13:54 — #2
So, it might be okay to eat yellow snow?
ironedithkidd at December 27th, 2013 14:14 — #3
It's never OK to eat yellow snow.
niktemadur at December 27th, 2013 14:48 — #4
Wait 'til the thaw, then we'll see what's what.
EDIT: Whoa, that's a lot of w's and t's.
michaelpbrisson at December 27th, 2013 15:27 — #5
An upstate NY public radio station did a piece yesterday about the NYS Thruway which uses salt brine (from saltwater) with white sugar beet juice.
The product, which the manufacturer calls Ice Bite "...puts an invisible coating of anti-icing solids on the road that prevent ice and hard packed snow from sticking to the road, so that shovels, snow plows and so forth can easily remove all of the snow and ice leaving a wet road. Even if it’s minus 15 it’s gonna be a wet road on the asphalt that will not freeze. That is a safe-to-drive-on surface.”
raybert at December 27th, 2013 16:45 — #6
Yeah, I'd wait a bit - maybe right now it's too cold to smell.
@crenquis: @IronEdithKidd is right, NEVER eat yellow snow.
ironedithkidd at December 27th, 2013 16:49 — #7
Don't worry, he knows better than that.
jardine at December 27th, 2013 17:20 — #8
Yeah, that sounds like marketing horseshit.
htousey at December 27th, 2013 17:21 — #9
Just spent the last week up in Milwaukee, the streets were great!
grimloki at December 27th, 2013 17:32 — #10
Anything that can dissolve in water can be a deicer.
It has to do with the weight of the molecules dissolved... not any specific property of whatever. Salt. Cheese brine Salt. Sugar. Whatever.
All will work.
tribune at December 27th, 2013 17:47 — #11
Well alcohol in water might work but when the water freezes at the reduced temperature and starts leaving pools of increasingly concentrated alcohol on the street there could be some interesting side effects. "Crazy Uncle Fred went out for a smoke at -40 C and set the street on fire..." (ok so at that temperature I am not sure just a cigarette would ignite pools of alcohol but i like the image. Maybe a chunk of burning magnesium)
raybert at December 27th, 2013 18:16 — #12
a) is that F or C?
b) Safer than driving on ice, granted. But not as safe as a dry surface.
Question two, at 0:35:
christinaward at December 27th, 2013 18:41 — #13
I live in the neighborhood testing the Brine. It's a combo of brine and salt. It's working well so far; we've had above average snow and below average temps. No stink. BUT the majority of neighbors in our Town Hall forums actually would like it to have a cheesy smell. We're fond of our old non-official slogan: Wisconsin: Smell Our Dairy Air!
grimloki at December 27th, 2013 19:27 — #14
Alcohol is expensive. There are other things you could use that would be undesirable.
Californium and Potassium is water soluble and quite heavy.. So that would work extra well! Also expensive and radioactive.
knackfloh at December 27th, 2013 21:23 — #15
Potassium on Ice? I want this on Tuesday Night.
jardine at December 27th, 2013 21:59 — #16
I'm not sure if blowing holes in the road will help.
knackfloh at December 28th, 2013 08:36 — #17
Why, fireworks, very satisfying reaction.
jonaseggeater at December 28th, 2013 09:00 — #18
I don't remember where, but my father told me about a town piloting the use of brewery wastes as a de-icer for the roads, too.
I mean, I like cheese and everything, but if we find out that a smell does get produced under certain conditions, I'd rather have a smell of beer. Mmm...
grimloki at December 28th, 2013 12:55 — #19
I thought using sugar would be possible. It is. I'd rather have sugar on the roads and in ditches and in runoff than salt.
And it would work... but not as well. sugar weighs less than salt.
jonaseggeater at December 28th, 2013 14:16 — #20
Also, that would be likely to cause an algae bloom or a boom in the bacterial population (maybe even causing hypoxia) in any water that received the sugary runoff. Still a neat idea though.
I'm confused about why the molecular weight matters though - could you shed some light on this?
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