frauenfelder at July 11th, 2014 21:12 — #1
sockdoll at July 11th, 2014 22:00 — #2
Fantasy? It's just as real as any Disney property found in an enchanted room!
digitalartform at July 12th, 2014 00:14 — #3
How come complaints of "cultural appropriation" rarely comes up when it comes to Poly Pop? Not that I'm lodging any now, but why doesn't it?
stefanjones at July 12th, 2014 00:53 — #4
No big visible population of Polynesians around to object?
And it occurs to me: It is mostly about the props, not the people. The occasional fire dancer maybe, but Tiki culture is mostly about leaf roofed cabanas, statues, funny drinks and the like.
felila at July 12th, 2014 02:30 — #5
Discussion of Polynesian religions is seriously wrong. It was not ancestor worship as usually understood ... as in China, frex. The island aristocrats believed that they had power (mana) because they descended from the gods. They were the ones with the impressive genealogies (such as the Kumulipo). Commoners could remember a few generations only.
boundegar at July 12th, 2014 06:28 — #6
This is so much a part of my childhood. In my town there was a restaurant with a tiki theme, although the menu was just standard American Chinese - moo goo gai pan and the like. But the menu offered drinks served in skulls with deadly warnings.
prestonsturges at July 12th, 2014 12:15 — #7
Could they really be aliens?
prestonsturges at July 12th, 2014 12:52 — #8
There was one of those near the SIlver Spring Metro stop in the 1980s. It was a little run down. As we walked in one evening the waiter was doing the Heimlich on a fat lady and I swear to god she coughed up what looked like an entire pork chop which she had apparently been trying to swallow whole like an anaconda.
boundegar at July 12th, 2014 13:07 — #9
Close, this was Arlington, near what is now called Ballston. But I think they closed in the 70s when they renovated the vintage mall it was in.
prestonsturges at July 12th, 2014 15:07 — #10
The Tonga Room at the Fairmont Hotel on Knob Hill is a classic. It has a lagoon which used to be the hotel's swimming pool. The Fairmont itself is worth a visit because it is a grand old hotel and one of the few building that that survived the earthquake of 1906.
crenquis at July 12th, 2014 19:55 — #11
big kahuna CEO is a major Tiki guy (not-a-mega-millions-CEO)... It is always fun to visit his home because I get to sample his latest rum acquisitions and check out the latest tiki statue that he has commissioned. His wife is a graphic designer who kinda loves that Atomic Tiki vibe, so I guess that they bonded over that... There are always a few folks at his gatherings that he has met via his Tiki-bar adventures and they are always fun, but give off the same vibe that I get off of others that are a bit obsessed with an artificial "culture". It is the same as when I visit my friend who is involved with medieval/renaissance stuff except there I am tasting different meads and checking out her new tent for the Pennsic Wars... All just different flavors of Nerd -- Tiki-Nerds, Medieval-Nerds, etc (as a rigorously traditional Geek-Nerd, I find their failure to be authentic quite disturbing).
gilbertwham at July 12th, 2014 19:59 — #12
'The Heimlich' ought to supplant twerking as the latest Reprehensible Dance.
gilbertwham at July 12th, 2014 20:00 — #13
They all sound authentically drunk, at least.
crenquis at July 12th, 2014 20:04 — #14
As a traditional Geek, I only imbibe the finest Romulan Ale analogues...
simonize at July 12th, 2014 21:45 — #15
I remember that place, I ate there once...http://www.silverspringsingular.com/2009/06/lost-silver-spring-luau-hut.html
l_mariachi at July 12th, 2014 22:06 — #16
In my experience, folks who are a “bit obsessed with an artificial culture” tend to be more thoughtful and responsible about it than the tailgating yahoos* wearing halfassed Indian headdresses and doing the Tomahawk Chop at ballgames. The people who ran the Tiki bar I used to frequent seemed to have a deep appreciation for it, while fully understanding that complicated frozen umbrella cocktails are not an accurate representation of authentic historical Polynesian culture.
* Yahoos, of course, being a truly artificial culture.
prestonsturges at July 13th, 2014 02:55 — #17
Saturday afternoons I used to go a couple blocks over to the Thai Market, the thrift shop, and Atlantic Guns, all of which seem to still be around.
jansob1 at July 13th, 2014 04:15 — #18
Native Americans have local representatives and are politically connected enough that their opposition is well-known.
The Polynesians are far away and no one has heard any complaints, so it must be ok. Besides, we are only appropriating their culture ironically.
elusis at July 13th, 2014 14:25 — #19
Because you're not exposed to the people who do indeed critique it?
And because people who are into "Tiki culture" are often white geek leftie types - the last time someone made a critical comment about Tiki bars on my FB friends list, a whole bunch of folks who would normally drop everything and run for a chance to be an ally about, say, white-on-black racism or transphobia or etc. completely lost their minds and got themselves so worked up into an orgy of self-righteous snark that it was completely insufferable.
frauenfelder at July 16th, 2014 21:12 — #21
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