2020 Election Thread (formerly: 2020 Presidential Candidates Thread) (Part 1)

(Not unlike Trump) this kind of shit would absolutely END any other candidate, but if you got enough money…

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I just looked at the edit history of wikipedia based on a rumour and someone did indeed add a death date to Bloomberg’s page shortly after the debate.

But it was only there for about 5 minutes.

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The responses to Bloomberg’s original post of this shitshow are real chef’s-kiss-y.

This one is my favorite, in the brevity and humor category:

How are you tweeting from the dead?

— Travis Akers (He/Him/His) (@travisakers) February 20, 2020
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Next time Mozilla/Microsoft/Google updates a browser, they should put this disclaimer as its splash screen.

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I can’t resist posting this beauty from my feed:

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From a disabled lawyer on Medicaid who specializes in health care (out of necessity):

Government policy doesn’t magically implement. A transition period ensures continuous coverage. A hard cut-off changeover will leave people without any care and it’s going to be the poorest and most vulnerable who suffer and even die.

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I see he’s gone all in on the memes. Could not be more like Trump if he tried.

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I hadn’t really thought of it like that before. My concern about going for a two phase plan still lingers, but if you look at it like a transition, it makes more sense.

The other thing it factors in: if full-fat M4A looks like it’s going to pass and be implemented, you can count on health insurers to go all private equity on things before the implementation hits; extracting every last penny from the most vulnerable. How do I know that? Because I’ve dealt with them before and they are exactly those kind of bastards. A transition with public option means that people who have private insurance but are getting screwed by their private insurance can jump to the public option that much quicker.

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bloomberg-ad-coverage

From this article
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Warren is the smartest person in that room

It’s too bad the process can’t allow two leftists to be popular at the same time

and she really shot herself in the foot taking that one swing at Bernie

I guess she knows better than to do it again

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I really liked the earlier episodes of this show where Super Bernie and Wonder Warren fought the Centrist League back-to-back. :sleepy:

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maybe they get back together for the season finale

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Yup. Consider, too, that it takes time to put records and databases together. You can assume that whatever data the insurance companies hand over is going to be unreliable. People who have never had coverage because they fell between the cracks of not qualifying for Medicare or Medicaid and don’t have private insurance are going to need to be put on the books. There’s going to be an entire systemic shift.

For example, last year Canada implemented new regulations for food companies. Companies that didn’t previously need to be licensed suddenly required one. This is a much smaller affected pool than every single US resident getting medical care. However , there was a scale of when different types of companies (depending on what they do) needed to be in compliance with the new regs. Keep in mind, there’s not just you getting care covered, there is every medical services provider having to change what they do. It’s not something that you can just flip a switch on and be done.

There needs to be a transition period. It’s just the reality of this kind of massive shift.

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And the idea that M4A reduces or restricts choice is the kind of thing that should cause the person peddling it to be utterly ignored on that topic, forever.

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