Nope, don’t think those are things either. These groups are not monolithic in the least. Even if you start to subdivide, like " black middle class" or “white working class” you are still going to see differing value sets. By the time you see anything like uniformity, you have subsubdivided to the point of insanity.
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Is monolithic the relevant criterion? Wouldnt statistically significant tendency towards certain views, attitudes, lifestyles provide some information? The whole idea of “classes” in anything is common elements, not monolithic elements. In social sciences one can argue statistical properties are sufficient precisely because groups of people are not monolithic.
One example. My wifes family are quite blue collar. Her mother always insisted the kids work from 14, regardless of whether that impacted time for study. I would argue that this attitude, is statistically unusual in the middle class. Even if not all middle class people hold that attitude.
I missed it first time so, yes, it did 
Thank you.
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I’d do it in a week but, that’s cool.
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Not at all. And of course the odds that I am full of (ahem) “baloney” have to be high.
But an example would be education. The middle class, god bless their cotton socks, have an wonderful belief in the intrinsic value of education. My working class relatives, do not share this semi-religious conviction. Education is functional or worthless. Whereas having been fully socialised in nice middle class ways, I see a high school teacher with a PhD in Sanskrit as clearly a more valuable and laudable member of society than a plumber regardless of the fact that he probably earns 3x as much. Class is not income.
I dont think of my wealthy (sorry, I mean upper class) relatives as having the same weird love of education, with the exception of religious education. The rest of it is once again functional.
Another example might be political participation. I dont think my working class relatives really think of political participation as an option. I mean standing for office. I think most middle class people dont even think about it. But I noticed my wealthy relatives definitely had it on their radar.
Marriage as a social tool? I dont think the working class think of marriage as social engineering or even a form of deterministic destiny.
Im sure there is enough going on there to start a discussion.
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I think an important thing here is that, not only has inslee come in and set a high bar for climate plans amongst contenders so far, this overall push is extremely important towards making sure that a climate plan is part of the platform regardless of who winds up the nominee.
An ambitious climate plan is a must in the race against Trump, particularly if we get stuck with another uninspiring lesser evil again
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Against Reagan? That’s a no-brainer. In the primaries, though, there were lots of good options: Jesse Jackson and George McGovern were still viable through Iowa at least, and then there was Kennedy-impersonator Gary Hart. Fritz did have the benefit of being an uncontroversial, likable moderate. Too bad he promised to raise taxes, and seemed to have trouble finding beef.
Biden and Buttigieg have been consistently disappointing lately. Ugh. No thank you.
Mayor Pete calling people protesting Chik-Fil-A’s millions of dollars in donations to anti-LGBT groups “virtue signaling”…
And after the news talked about how he polled poorly among Black voters, his immediate move was to have lunch with Al Sharpton and ask him how to eat chicken.
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Heh… no shit you have no empathy Joe or else you’d have considered how frightening and uncomfortable it must be for a strange old man to stand behind you and rub your face in front of a bunch of cameras and make jokes about your future sex life. But he’s a centrist . If I have to vote for him I will but I won’t be happy about it.
Ah…venting. Does nothing but feels good.
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Jesse Jackson had no chance at all, McGovern was a has-been, and it appears you do not recall why Hart had to drop out. [hint: very photogenic mistress.]
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Maybe you should stop spending so much time trying to raise money from cable execs and union busters, Joe.
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I don’t believe in using “electability” as a prime criterion when choosing who to vote for in the primary, especially early primaries.
He was a youthful man in his 60s with successful senate, think tank, and academic careers under his belt. He himself said that he was running mainly to influence the direction of political conversation during the primaries. That is a very good reason to support a candidate, even if they are a long shot.
and it appears you do not recall why Hart had to drop out. [hint: very photogenic mistress.]
It appears that you do not recall that the Donna Rice affair was during his second attempt, in the 1988 primary, not the 1984 primary with Fritz.
Incidentally, w/r to Jackson, I believed at the time – and still believe – his run was important for our understanding of who we are as a country, and that it had important effects on the party. 4 years later the Rainbow Coalition was quite active in many places, including Minnesota where we were living at that point, and it launched the political careers of remarkable people like Paul Wellstone, who also had no chance at all (until he won) when he ran for Senate. My wife, like Wellstone, was a Rainbow delegate that year, and the political atmosphere in the Coalition was electric.
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Yikes.
Yikes yikes yikes.
Martin: Why did he wait until [just before] he was running for president to call her?
Biden: Well, I guess it was just not the right time maybe. So, he wanted to call her. I think he didn’t know whether she would take his call, and he was so happy that he she did take his call, and they spoke. And I think he was, you know, I think they came to an agreement.
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This is about as effective as having Madeline Albright tell other women they’re “traitors” if they didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton. No one needs or wants their mom or grandma demanding that they vote for any particular candidate.
Biden can’t apologize for how he treated Anita Hill because he doesn’t believe he did anything wrong. Mrs. Biden can go fly a kite.
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And nothing of value was lost.
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You can try (as his campaign did at the time) to play this off as an inartful attempt to discuss the socio-economic disparity between white and black households, and the impact that has on educational outcomes, but this does not read as a condemnation of institutional racism so much as a “people of color are terrible parents” take on why Iowa had better schools than DC.
https://twitter.com/lyftrs/status/1125894701117267973
I’m sure this will pair very well with his recently-dredged-up remarks about why desegregating schools was such a bad idea.
“I do not buy the concept, popular in the ’60s, which said, ‘We have suppressed the black man for 300 years and the white man is now far ahead in the race for everything our society offers. In order to even the score, we must now give the black man a head start, or even hold the white man back, to even the race,’ ” Biden told a Delaware-based weekly newspaper in 1975. “I don’t buy that.”
In language that bears on today’s debate about whether descendants of slaves should be compensated, he added, “I don’t feel responsible for the sins of my father and grandfather. I feel responsible for what the situation is today, for the sins of my own generation. And I’ll be damned if I feel responsible to pay for what happened 300 years ago.”
Where’s my yikes sticker? Ah yes…
Biden, 76, declined to be interviewed for this article. But his spokesman, Bill Russo, said the former vice president still believes he was right to oppose busing.
“He never thought busing was the best way to integrate schools in Delaware — a position which most people now agree with,” Russo said. “As he said during those many years of debate, busing would not achieve equal opportunity. And it didn’t.”
And I’m sure that people like Joe Biden actively working to undermine its effectiveness had nothing to do with that outcome. 
Although civil rights leaders may object to Biden’s past statements about busing, his decision to stand by his views on the issue illustrate what some of his supporters think would be his advantage in the 2020 field: his ability to appeal beyond the Democratic base to some working-class white voters who voted for Donald Trump in 2016.
You know, casual racists who hate the idea of affirmative action. Definitely the sort of people a party moving toward a majority-minority composition desperately needs to win elections.
In the interview, Biden dismissed government efforts to impose diversity in schools. “We’ve lost our bearings since the 1954 Brown vs. School Board desegregation case,” he said. “To ‘desegregate’ is different than to ‘integrate.’ . . . I am philosophically opposed to quota systems. They insure mediocrity.”
If anything, he said, it was busing plans that were racist.
Really aiming for a win on the “aggrieved ally” bingo card, there, Joe…
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It’s infuriating that this old sack of throwback is the frontrunner. I so hope something just too disabling about him comes to light.
All this shit and more is bad, but Trump has lowered the bar so much by now that for most voters, these bits of evidence that’s he’s basically a Republican don’t look all that bad anymore.
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Interesting data from last week
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This is kinda depressing. He couldn’t even manage to dislodge the Zodiac Killer from his Senate seat.
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