2020 Election Thread (formerly: 2020 Presidential Candidates Thread) (Part 1)

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So this is why Biden doesn’t support defunding police departments. Because he wants to give them even more money.

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More community policing is needed, but if money’s what’s needed to buy it (it isn’t) it can come out of the already grotesquely large local law enforcement budgets

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From a magazine read primarily by generals and defense contractors:

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Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don’t do what I want them to
Facts just twist the truth around
Facts are living turned inside out
Facts are getting the best of them
Facts are nothing on the face of things
Facts don’t stain the furniture
Facts go out and slam the door
Facts are written all over your face
Facts continue to change their shape

(Thanks David Byrne)…

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From an abolitionist perspective, “community policing” is just a euphemism for counterinsurgency.

Training police to more effectively infiltrate oppressed communities is not a positive step.

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From a modern American perspective, it mostly translates these days into making sure that police officers live in the communities they police instead of in whites-only “Copland” enclaves where the us-vs-them warrior mentality is only re-inforced. African-American community leaders have been asking for this as a key reform element since at least 1967 (without it being delivered, naturally), and I tend to trust their judgement on such matters.

There are also doctrinal principles of community policing, going back to the roots in Peelian policing, but they don’t work well when the cops isolate themselves in their own separate communities when they’re off the clock.

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not one story yet ive seen has even mentioned race ( haven’t read that guardian one yet ) - just magically that some locations had long lines and some did not.

it’s enough of an obvious question reporting should try to assess it one way or the other. and they haven’t :confused:

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Yep. But of course, if you know the demographics of the locations they are talking about…

I heard that Stacey Abrams was on Colbert last night, so that will get the issue on the table.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/10/politics/georgia-voting-issues-black-voters/index.html

Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms, in an interview with CNN on Wednesday, said she went to vote in person last week, because her absentee ballot never arrived.

From the video, after a “not my fault” quote from the Georgie Secretary of State:

Well, he’s elected to oversee the elections, so if Fulton County has a problem, if DeKalb County has a problem, and the list goes on, then its also his problem[…]if its the responsibility simply of the counties to assure a fair and well-run election, then what’s the point of having an elected Secretary of State?

(Transcription mine, might not be 100% accurate)

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I’m sorry you’re still in office?

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Or the usual non-apology apology, “We apologize if you are offended by our poll results.”

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Trump is going to have a lot less voter enthusiasm and turnout on his side, a fair amount of his previous voters voting for Biden and a larger amount of Republicans writing in someone else.

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Here’s hoping. Of course, the Republicans also sought to distance themselves from him in the immediate aftermath of the Access Hollywood “grab 'em by the pussy” tape and we saw how long that lasted.

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Ten years ago, reformist leaders were asking for body cameras. Ten years before that, you’d probably find some asking for tasers.

Community policing is an idea that might work in a hypothetical reality where US cops are not what they are. In the current situation, it’s somewhere between ineffective and harmful.

:musical_note: But don’t let it be a black and a white one
'cause they slam ya down to the street top
Black police showin out for the white cop :musical_note:

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