2020 Election Thread (formerly: 2020 Presidential Candidates Thread) (Part 1)

If say - Joe Biden accepted and trumpeted an endorsement from Milo Y - would Sanders and his supporters criticize him?

Quite obviously and quite rightly.

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This will most definitely be part of the Iowa caucuses discussions.

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Can we call Republicans Nazis now? Because this is literally what the Nazis did in 1933.

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No, they do; of course they do.

But they’ll matter less under a second Trump term, and the last time I checked, those are the stakes we’re playing for. Also, people kepe saying ‘Bernie isn’t good for trans people,’ when he is at least sympathetic, leaving me to ask who’s the best candidate still in the race on Trans rights? Because if it’s not someone already in the race, or if it’s someone who dropped out, it’s time to do some serious soul-searching.

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Ah, only Bernie can win? Bernie or bust?

If people vote for Trump BECAUSE their guy did not get in, then it’s clear they don’t give a fuck about the rest of us, only about themselves and their issues. If we have to earn the support transphobes, misogynists, and racists to beat a transphobe, misogynist, and racist, then we’re already fucked.

If it’s avoiding a second Trump term, then they will vote for his opponent no matter who it is… If they don’t they are not an ally in the first place and never were. They are expecting us to baby them by not daring to say the first critical thing about their candidate, when that is the entire point of the primary, to shake them out and see who works best.

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My new QAnon anti meme is that Trump isn’t the real Trump - he was replaced last year by the deep state - just like Paul McCartney was.

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Trump/McCartney 2020: Helter Skelter.

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Well here’s some great news for Bernie

One reason for the difference seems to be age. Caucus electorates appear to be fairly young, and primary electorates fairly or even very old. This should not be a huge surprise. The kinds of Democrats who have excelled in caucuses in recent years, like Sanders and Barack Obama, were backed overwhelmingly by younger voters. The young represented a large share of the caucus electorates in the 2004, 2008 and 2016 entrance polls — the only publicly available data on the composition of the caucus electorate, even if it is of uncertain quality.

Biden’s turnout disadvantage persists even among the voters who said they would caucus. In a second likely-voter question — which asks Democratic caucusgoers to evaluate their likelihood of voting — Biden does worst among the voters who say they are “almost certain” to vote, and falls to just 15% of the vote. On the other hand, he is at 30% among those who said they would caucus but specified in the follow-up question that they were “somewhat” or “less likely” to caucus.

In the Times/Siena poll, younger voters are likelier than older voters to say they will participate in the Democratic caucus. Among registered Democrats, 53% of those 18 to 29 said they were “almost certain” or “very likely” to caucus, compared with 35% older than 65. It is not because this is just a group of exceptionally high-turnout young people: 58% of these same 18-to-29-year-old Democrats turned out in 2018, according to data from the L2 voter file, while 85% of the respondents older than 65 were voters in 2018.

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Damn. Brutal.

:smiling_imp:

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Good? Bad? I love how a ‘leaked’ doc puts “Trump’s corruption” as a sign/signifier …

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Details in thread.

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Yeah yeah Politico, we know, all mainstream politicians contradict themselves sometimes.

(Not that I have one bit of love for Joe Biden.)

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Future consideration.

Edit:

https://www.penncapital-star.com/commentary/new-f-trumps-still-underwater-in-a-key-2020-battleground-state-thursday-morning-coffee/

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