The data is in: law enforcement officers who seek to de-escalate or go against their colleagues committing violence get fired or worse. At this point, police departments in the US have actively selected for fascists. A few have quit this week, as they’ve seen the reality of that. The only reason to stay on right now is if you are spying on the police or documenting abuses; but that is extremely dangerous work. Necessary, but dangerous.
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Yours is a solid moral standpoint, but is it practical? How do you want to change things. Do you want police to be disbanded, and replaced with something else? I’m not against that. I’m fine with throwing out the old, but what’s the new?
I’ve been googling “Black Lives Matter policy demands”, and in 2016 there was apparently a list of demands made including “community control of the police” - not “abolition of the police”. But maybe that changed.
edit: Maybe a community decides that their PD is beyond reform, that’s their call. In many places there is probably a good case for that. But a blanket call for people to quit law enforcement everywhere, without at the same time aiming to build a more democratic and inclusive alternative - I’m not sure if that has the positive consequences one would hope for.
Okay, so what happening in the federal prison system right now?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WOW!
So they locking security down, but trying to do it with a skeleton crew? I want to know which effing moron thought this was a brilliant idea. It’s not going to make a difference on the streets.
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The national Karen convention was going on yesterday in Long Island
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Those are, by training (or lack thereof), even less capable of dealing with citizens in a lawful and respectful manner, aren’t they. 
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Sorry, but demanding practical details only from other people is simply not an honest look.
There are lots of discussions out there about how to replace the current police with something else. I’m not sure I am up for having them with someone who demands a 12-point plan for fixing our hand in response to me daring to roll my eyes at their suggestion to keep hammering it.
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Another rebuke of Donnie by a social media company
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I’m not “demanding a 12 point plan”, I’m politely asking for the slightest notion, faintest idea or general suggestion, what kind of consequences a call for people to quit law enforcement might have, and how that would contribute to the issues at hand, short term, long term, doesn’t matter. “Police abolition” as quoted above seems like an answer. But that will only be achievable in some communities, and only through a political fight where it is made an explicit demand, backed by the protesters. I stand by my opinion, quitting alone doesn’t help. If a law enforcement officer is conscientious enough to quit, I don’t see how this is going to improve the immediate situation, compared to them staying on the job and doing their best to stop, report, or at least refuse the participation in illegal practices.
Overhead view of Seattle PD initiating violence against a peaceful protest downtown.
Reminder for cops: people being loud and/or rude is not an excuse to mace them, shoot them, or gas them. But then, you already knew that, didn’t you?
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And you don’t seem to care that the second doesn’t improve the immediate situation one bit either, as has been explained to you with citations. So that’s a double standard in evidence you expect. Good day.
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There was a tense exchange live on air last night on CNN between one of their reporters and one of the NYPD that was similar in nature to this. (But without the expletives.) I completely believe this account.
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Suckers gonna pay anyway, there gonna be a day
Cause the troop they roll in, to posse up whole from the ground
Ready to go, throw another round
Sick of the ride, it’s suicide for the other side of town
When I find a way to shut 'em down
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I don’t think you get how this is going to be resolved. It’s not going to be resolved by bureaucratic means. Minneapolis isn’t going to heal by a handful of MPD cops being reprimanded or fired. The only way out for MPD is to dissolve MPD and start over. The mayor and city council are already putting the plan together to go to an entirely different model of policing, with community policing, unarmed and accountable.
Same thing goes for NYPD, DCPD, LAPD, and all the other cities where the police have been the aggressors, where they’ve obscured their IDs so that individual police can’t be identified and prosecuted, turned off their body cameras, etc.
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Funny how that works out. I don’t know the exact month, but so is the one I posted. 
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That’s incredibly on the nose.
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