Two groups?
No. Let’s see, Platformists, other libertarian socialists, various libertarian-minded non-socialists, the Libertarian party, and right-wing Republicans who claim to be libertarian but oppose unions and support racist policies…
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democracy vs property. A lot of libertarians are very bothered by the fact that democracy allows the majority to vote to redistribute wealth more equitably from the owning minority.
Normally democracies have limitations on what a simple (absolute) majority can vote on, in facts it’s necessary for any reasonable democracy otherwise e.g. the majority could vote on having the rest killed. That’s why minority (including individual) protections are needed. And those people, while not actually keen on a lot of government, do indeed value it if it protects what they consider their property.
Well, if not the movie, then certainly the game.
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Hi Albill,
Can I direct you to the link in the article? I know it’s from the laughable Southern Poverty Law Centre, but to be honest it explains it very well from the opposite point of view.
Essentially it’s a huge social engineering project (NO, NOT BY THE JEWS, GO BACK TO /pol/, you!). Enjoy the read.
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Of what use is this?
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It’s sometimes applied to people who aren’t trans exterminationist and/or exclusionary (some try to recruit trans people, especially trans men, and persuade them to detransition, and this can benefit cis people who have started transition, and found that transition was dysphoria-inducing and want to detransition), and it’s sometimes applied to people who aren’t radical feminists (such as a radical lesbian who blames radical feminism and queer theory for encouranging transition).
Hi! I’m a man and don’t feel this was man- bashing. Rather it point out and describes a specific kind of man found in all corners of the internet. Make no mistake however, that it does not in any way describe all or even most men. If it describes you, then you might consider some deep introspection because the sort of person described in this article is the sort of person the world needs as few as possible of.
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If someone is willing to fund a study of Redpillers I think we can find enough empirical evidence to suggest a correlation between an increased IQ and a decreased EQ.
I’m going to assume that the Redpillers are of similar stock as the Mensa group. And from my observation they tend to be arrogant and intolerant of “lower-life forms” (i.e., people who don’t meet their standards). It’s a small population that congratulates itself over the depth of esoterically obscure discussions which in turn produce no discernible benefit for the greater good of humanity, and while it does fulfil their need to feel significant it has the by-product of an over-inflated ego.
Short answer (it’s been discussed a lot in other threads):
It’s an element in quasi-conspiracy theories. It starts with a caricature of the Frankfurt School, that they concluded that social revolution was no longer possible and all that could be done was to tear down Western Civilization through political criticism of art and social institutions, and supposedly this strategy became universally accepted among liberals in the 60s and 70s.
The assumption is that the only valid criticism is “objective”, and does not point out political or social issues in art or social institutions. Any criticism, or mild complaint, that points out racism, sexism, homophobia, etc., is called “cultural Marxism”.
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Of what use is this?
What makes you think I have that answer?
You say “they only have to be able to spot those traits,” as though you see some reason for doing so. Why do they have to be able to do that?
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then figuring out which racial box to put that other person into.
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Of what use is this?
Well, for one thing, if they’re white, that usually helps explain why they’re operating under the delusion that their racial status has absolutely nothing to do with who and what they are, and where they are in the general scheme of things.
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Why do they have to be able to do that?
I didn’t say they have to be able to do that.
You might want to make sure you’re not asking me to defend arguments I never made.
I said people do that, not that they must, or that it’s useful, or that I like it, or anything else. If you want to argue that people don’t do that, have at it. Otherwise, you’re arguing with the wrong person.
Perhaps I misunderstood. You said this:
Did you not mean “They only have to be able to spot those traits.”?
I was writing while you were editing. I misunderstood your earlier post, and I believe others may have as well. It sounded like you were defending the practice you were describing. I’ve unfortunately heard far too many others do that. I apologize for misunderstanding you.
No, no. You misunderstand. I understand what it is in that context but it seemed like it was being treated as a real thing, as opposed to a nut job thing, by some folks here so I was asking…
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OK. No problem.
It’s easy to be unclear or misinterpreted when talking about this stuff.
Have a good night.
Right-wing conspiracy theories (the Frankfurt school is the cause of all evil) aside, the Frankfurt school was hugely influential in certain academic fields (e.g. strong program in the social sciences) and within the formation of the new left in the 60s/70s. Academic feminism which has set the tone in the modern SJ movement is hugely influenced by critical theory, which was developed by the Frankfurt school. That’s not a conspiracy theory as far as I’m aware, but I’m happy to hear others opinions on it in case what I said above is wrong. You can object to the label “cultural marxism” if you like, but it’s not entirely inappropriate considering that Frankfurt school thinkers were Marxist thinkers (or Neomarxist) and that they focus on the importance of culture and the limits of individual rationality as a response to positivism.
None of these fields are beyond criticism and that criticism often comes from more natural science-minded thinkers (e.g., see the Sokal affair), who object to what they perceive as anti-rational or anti-enlightenment attitudes within those fields. Lumping all such criticism in with the Frankfurt school conspiracy theories on the right obscures some important detail of that debate. (By the way, I don’t mean to accuse you of doing that, just mean to clarify)
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Oh, sorry. Well, rereading the post you were responding to, I’d say that person wasn’t taking the “cultural Marxism” thing to the extreme that I was describing, but was still influenced by that semi-conspiracy theory. The “real thing” was pretty much the Frankfurt School, which has had some influence on left intellectuals – Marcuse, in particular, was popular in the 60s – but not the sort of hegemonic influence that’s claimed for it.
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