A beginner's guide to the Redpill Right

But is genetics really how most people make these distinctions in their daily life?

The results of the genetics, yes.

Whilst @popobawa4u does, on occasion, strive for absurdity (no offence, mon ami), I donā€™t consider that an adequate rebuttal. Not that Iā€™ve seen one from you as regards any of the replies to your comments so far.

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Thatā€™s not a ā€œyesā€ so far as I am concerned, because most people are not suitably trained to interpret genetics, or know how my genetics shaped the resulting organism. Some cultures do not likely even believe in genetics.

Since your examples of the importance of genetic differences were medical, how do the superficial results of genetics tell a layperson about the medical implications of my genes?

Sureā€¦and?

This is like the conversations about money not existing that you have. Sure, money is an abstraction, etc. but I bet you still use it to buy food, clothes, and pay your rent so, on a practical level, it is still there. Just like labels.

Theories are nice though.

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#notalllibertarians #notthedoucheykindyoualwayshearabout #butmorelikevermontororegonlibertarians #haveyouheardofthose #no? #oh #wellthatsnotreallysurprising #didIforgettomention #notalllibertarians

Do most people here really think of ā€œLibertariansā€ as two distinct groups, ā€œThe big one that most Libertarians belong toā€ and ā€œThis other one that hardly anybody belongs to expect in these 2 underpopulated areasā€ ?

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Watch out. This is a touchy subject, it seems.

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Not at all what I said. I said that any given system of currency is only real to the people who use it. Itā€™s a technology. A currency which has no value for you is just as real as a church you want nothing to do with - a real example of empty belief.

Then you bet wrong. This is surprisingly one of the most common arguments people put forward about my discussions of money. Since I canā€™t prove that I donā€™t use it - I obviously do. Or the even more asinine notion that if I donā€™t use money, I can give people ā€œmineā€, since Iā€™m not using itā€¦ (Iā€™m sure it makes sense to them, somehow)

What are you getting at? Have you read me proposing any theories? I am interested in practice. Which is defined by what I do. Telling me what I do is theoretical only implies that people would rather I not do it, which is their case to make.

Surely youā€™re trolling me.

Thatā€™s when you compare your paintings to those of a blind man painting a portrait of his blind lover and ponder whether youā€™ll every create anything with such raw existential powerā€¦right?

Mod note: Stay on topic.

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Basically, Libertarianism means:

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  • Government should not mess with personal autonomy
  • Government should protect civil liberties
  • States rights: states should be allowed to make any laws they want; the Federal Government canā€™t butt in
  • Return to the gold standard
  • Laissez-faire capitalism
  • Federal government should have no regulatory agencies (EPA, DeptEd, etc.)

and many others. Naturally, many are self-contradictory, and many libertarians will be furious than point x was included in a list of libertarian beliefs.

The problem with describing yourself as ā€œlibertarianā€ is that you leave it up the the person youā€™re talking to to decide which beliefs to ascribe to you.

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This thread needs more car-crashes.

Preferably with red-pillers in the front-seats, and big-L Libertarians (NOT from Vermont or rural Oregon) in the back-seats. The trunk is filled with #gamergaters.

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There is a puddle of coolant, oil, and gasoline slowly intermingling. The remnants of the engine tink as they cool down. A hubcap spins slower and slower, finally resting with a clatter.

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There is a moan from the trunk: ā€œF*****g SJWs!ā€

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Thatā€™s not a ā€œyesā€ so far as I am concerned, because most people are not suitably trained to interpret genetics

Oh for fuckā€™s sake: people are perfectly capable of seeing if another personā€™s genetics gives them dark skin or light skin.

Of course, but most of what people assume to be racism seems to really be ethnocentrism or xenophobia. Does your average person know why somebody has dark skin, and do they care? Arenā€™t Dravidian Indians mistaken for Africans? Hispanics mistaken for Arabs? Donā€™t even get me started on Westerners frequent inability to discern where far-Easterners are from.

My point being that in the space between race and ethnicity, people assume much leeway of interpretation which cause the real traits and their professed excuses for racist treatment to not be consonant.

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Yeeees?

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Depends upon who they are standing next to.

Darker thanā€¦ ? Lighter thanā€¦ ?

Of course, but most of what people assume to be racism seems to really be ethnocentrism or xenophobia.

Very true.

As I said above: the concept of race is used for all kinds of stupid things.

Does your average person know why somebody has dark skin, and do they care?

Nobody has to know or care why another person has that arbitrary bundle of (typically superficial) traits that people use to group people into a particular race. They only have to be able to spot those traits. This isnā€™t genetics, this is people looking at one another, recognizing the things that genetics has created, then figuring out which racial box to put that other person into. Unfortunately, people then draw other conclusions from there.

How is accurately describing their views - Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist - slurring? And, if trans people who they wonā€™t call women also identify as the same - how can they say that itā€™s only used to describe women?

Seems like obfuscation.

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Good thing theyā€™re young. If they were old, theyā€™d be ranting about
chemtrails and vaccines and fluoride, and have no idea what bitcoin is.

(I keep my bitcoins in a box under the bed, just to be sure, heh heh ā€¦)

Iā€™m 40, chemtrails are a myth, vaccines are valuable (even though I had a terrible reaction to the polio vaccine as a child and was hospitalized with fits - my child has been immunized), fluoride means I still have my teeth, and I have about one and a half bitcoins (I messed about with dogecoins for a while too, much nice).

Iā€™m old enough to have watched society change from the godawful bigotry of the 80s to the godawful political correctness of the 90s, through to the birth of the godawful panopticon of the noughties, and cultural marxism goes a long way to explain that change. However, correlation != causality and therefore I keep an open mind.

Itā€™s easy to write people off as right wing/left wing/counterculture hippy/establishment assholes, but I think we could all do ourselves a favour and stop dehumanizing the other side.

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40 isnā€™t old. (Iā€™m 43.)

Please, sir, define this ā€œcultural marxismā€ of which you speak.

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