A thread of our own- misogyny (Part 1)

[Surprise_Puma]

[anon23281680]

Awww. I already married a man and had a kid. Is it too late to also destroy a civilization? Do I get to choose?*
*For a given value of civil. I’m specifically thinking fasco-christianity

[Wayward]

@anon23281680

Awww. I already married a man and had a kid. Is it too late to also destroy a civilization?

Same here, and I don’t want to miss out either. Can I be on your team?

[anon61221983]

I’d like to malfunction my fist right up side his stupid head.

I mean, sometimes, you NEED to destroy civilization, when it’s full of stupid bullshit like this.

[subextraordinaire]

I know what you mean. I married a man, and we had four cats and a dog. We’re now empty nesters. So I feel like I kinda helped to destroy civilization?

[chenille]

People of all genders right now want homes and are having trouble getting them because of mindless capitalism, which in theory doesn’t need to have anything to do with patriarchy but sure seems to intersect anyway.

I read something recently that raised the interesting point why women used to be relegated to the home so often – because they can nurse and men can’t. It had nothing to do with even the concept that anyone needs any kind of structure, the kind of ideology most people had to put behind the necessities of life. It’s simply that if you’re going to send someone out to watch the sheep it has to be the father because he can’t tend to the baby. Needless to say that has been obsolete for a long, long time.

[anon67050589]

Women nurse babies on the go all the time, and if anything did it more often in previous generations. You strap the kid to your body and you keep on working in the fields. That’s human existence through the ages.

[chenille]

You certainly can and people certainly did, but on balance it makes doing the spinning easier than doing the farming, was basically the suggestion. People often overlook spinning because WoMeN’s WoRk, but until modern technology it was just as time consuming and important to everyday life, and it’s easier to pick up and put down.

[catsidhe]

“She [Julia Gillard] said that we know societies only reach their full potential if women are politically participating. Women are destroying the joint — Christine Nixon in Melbourne, Clover Moore here. Honestly.”

— Alan Jones, Australian right wing radio talkback host and all round horrible person, 2012

Destroy The Joint

[anon27554371]

@anon23281680

Is it too late to also destroy a civilization?

Too late? Too early? Who can tell?

[knoxblox]

Rich & Shameless: The Dark Side of the Girls Gone Wild Empire airs on TNT on 23 April with a UK date to be announced

‘Lives were being ruined’: the dark history of Girls Gone Wild

[anon61221983]

[PsiPhiGrrrl]

This take bothers me, though:

Blackford Newman hopes the film will serve as a “wake-up call to celebrities like the Kardashians to be more accountable, and to understand that they have a responsibility”. By associating with Francis, known to film underage girls, “they’re giving them credibility, particularly in the eyes of younger impressionable women”

People like Francis and Jeffrey Epstein use the rich and famous, too. Folks like that know that they can improve their reputations, sphere of influence, and access to victims by doing so. I’m not surprised that the Kardashians haven’t commented, either. It reminds me of the many cases where friends or colleagues of people accused of abuse defended their friends, because they couldn’t (or didn’t want to) believe they were capable of committing crimes.

What’s the responsibility of celebs here? Are they supposed to have these folks investigated, distance themselves when accusations are made, and take their explanations with a grain of salt*? That smacks of victim-blaming, and glosses over the fact that most of us don’t know everything about the people we associate with - friends, family, co-workers, etc. The responsibility lies with the perpetrator, unless the friends are enablers or accomplices.

*unless or until they are convicted of something, and since Robert Kardashian was a defense attorney their views on that might vary.

[KathyPartdeux]

I had a social work coworker years ago who got charged with stealing clients SSI. I just couldn’t believe it about her till the trial started.

[anon61221983]

@PsiPhiGrrrl

The responsibility lies with the perpetrator, unless the friends are enablers or accomplices.

[knoxblox]

@PsiPhiGrrrl

That smacks of victim-blaming, and glosses over the fact that most of us don’t know everything about the people we associate with - friends, family, co-workers, etc. The responsibility lies with the perpetrator, unless the friends are enablers or accomplices.

The difference I see here, though, is GGW was heavily marketed at the time, and any folks under 40 knew exactly what the recruiting (in front of club venues no less) and tour buses were there for. Folks like Epstein tried to keep their shit under wraps, but Francis was promoting his abuse like a frat boy at a kegger. You couldn’t NOT know what he was about.

[Jesse13927]

Ewwwwww!

Fox News's Jesse Watters Let Air Out Of Woman's Tires, Called It Courtship

[anon61221983]

Why are women philosophers often erased from collective memory? | Aeon Essays

[anon67050589]

Probably the academic department with the most toxic masculinity in all of higher education.

They’re literally the “well, actually” of academia.

[anon61221983]