Ugh. Stanford Prison Experiment for sexism. Great idea.
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Still not an appropriate way to go about teaching that. Imagine a class that taught the history of the third Reich by making Jewish kids wear armbands or that taught the history of the American south by forcing Black students to serve white students.
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Sadly, theyâve both been done in U.S. classrooms.
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Useful response on Sinema:
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Totally agree. I guess my thinking was that the intent of trying to teach about sexism is better than the intent of trying to reinforce sexism, even though the implementation of it was awful no matter what the intent was.
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Unfortunately, the chosen method of âteachingâ about sexism was more like giving a taste to all the males in the class. Kind of like, âlook what it could be likeâŠâ
It wouldâve still been controversial, but if theyâd at least flipped the gender roles (or the ethnic roles, in @Brainspore âs example) the lesson might actually succeed in helping the people who donât ever have to think about this stuff think about it in a way that is meaningful.
I think most of our teachers do an amazing job with too-limited resources. The fact that this one teacherâs utter tone-deafness is making the news could almost be seen as a good thing. Because itâs a rarity that they get it so wrong. And also because enough kids in that class saw and exposed the wrongness.
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Third grade teacher Jane Elliot did a famous lesson along these lines to teach her (all white) class about discrimination back in 1968. She divided the class by eye color, and the first day of the lesson she told the blue-eyed children they were smarter, nicer, neater, and better than those with brown eyes. Brown-eyed kids were treated as second-class citizens and even had to wear armbands so they could be spotted at a distance.
But the next part was keyâon the second day of the lesson she told the kids that it was actually the brown-eyed kids who were superior. The roles were reversed, the formerly cocky blue-eyed kids chagrined and demeaned.
On the third day she dropped the obvious truth that neither group was superior. All the children came away from the lesson understanding that dividing people by arbitrary physical traits was wrong and cruel, but the lesson only worked because each student shared the experience of feeling discriminated against.
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âWhat, a minister might have a baby? What was she thinking?â
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Follow up by Charisma Carpenter about being a good allyâŠ
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Yes! I heard a podcast about that. They went back to those students years later, and the lessons had really stuck. Amazing example of how it can be done right.
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And she personally caught hell for years afterward for teaching that lesson.
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Even before that lesson her class had recently made Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. their âHero of the Monthâ when he was still a very divisive figure in white America. By the standards of 1960s Iowa she was a goddamn radical.
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Yikes. What a fragile org. chart or structure if it canât adapt to a part being on leave or reduced hours for a set amount of time. This seems like the bigger cautionary tale, here!
Hopefully having more women in higher positions will cause us to revisit our corporate and governmental and other organizational structures to make them more adaptable and resilient.
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At least theyâre trying to actually fix the issue, not just saying âwell ya had yer chanceâ.
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We need 1,000 more like her.
Iâd see such an improvement in our society if a whole passel of them were teaching at every level including and probably especially at the college level. For one thing, Iâd bet people would stop getting rid clothes that lost a button or two, or (thinking of my former roommates) stop subsisting on pizza, ramen, and breakfast cereal.
I am so very tired of people denigrating serious skills that were once supposedly only meant to be wimminâs work (never mind them being called âlife skillsâ as if it were some rarefied peculiar set of skills needing to be separate from oh-so-much-more-respectable âintellectualâ skills⊠as if oneâs brain were not needed for all skills).
Cooking, canning, sewing, baking, kitchen gardening, nutrition, budgeting etc. are not antiquated, fusty pastimes that were quaintly and/or wrongly assigned gender roles. These skills are now nothing short of taking oneâs power back, saving money and resources, reconnecting the value of quality over quantity, understanding oneâs fiscal and dietary footprints, as well as withdrawing oneâs consent from what is broken in the current culture some of us find ourselves in.
I wonât even start in on the vital importance of actual [typically gender-specific] wimminâs skills that have an absolutely direct bearing on human health and development, but will include this here:
https://www.llli.org/resources/womanly-art-breastfeeding/
Sending my regards to your life partner.
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Like the article above, maybe our solution is to avoid Google until the company does better. There are alternatives, they just need greater exposure. FAMGAT firms all have terrible track records, but they wonât change until they lose users, data, and money:
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I agree.
And thanks for this list (in the article).
Itâs one of those â[noun] is here itâs just not evenly distributed yetâ issues, and though GoogleTranslate is certainly widespread, so are cockroaches⊠widespread !== best.
Brave as a browser has been a little uneven but we do use it (among many browsers) because as web developers, we see it actually is getting some real traction among users and we do appreciate its (Braveâs) mission. Thanks for the update, it is good news.
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This is the video in question:
Disgusting 1950s vibes. âLecherousâ is the word that comes to mind.
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