“Want to know why I’m not going to say anything disparaging about ADT? They require their customers to agree not to. I guess you’ll have to use your imagination!”
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Yea, but are you more hip than time tracking software? 'Cause I used to work for a company that used ADT for that, and it must have been the crappiest web-based software I have ever used, and that’s saying a lot.
Good thing I’m not a member of their family anymore, so I can say this with impunity!
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Are you sure that wasn’t ADP’s Kronos? Because it’s the crappiest web-based time-tracking software I’ve ever seen, by far.
@Boundegar is way hipper than Kronos. (Kronos, after all, eats babies.)
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Could have been. Probably was.
But I’ll stick with ADT for narrative constraints!
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“I wasn’t disparaging them! I was, uh… belittling, denigrating, making light of, ridiculing, deriding, and
formal calumniating them. Totally different!”
Call the lawyers! And let slip the hounds of war!
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Is it actually ‘web based’ or ‘web based’ in the sense that the horrific java relics are delivered by http server?
Their “Enterprise eTime” product offers the delightful opportunity to install Java 6u17 and carefully configure IE’s security settings to “hurt me plenty” in order to function.
In fairness, it is pretty damn enterprise; given that ‘enterprise’ is often a synonym for ‘ossified legacy java’.
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ADP’s Kronos required Java 7.51 at my last gig. Java 7.51 exactly. Nothing newer, nothing older.
Designing SaaS that badly should be punishable with hanging in the public square.
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Yup. I’m protected by these devices right now. I think the lifetime subscription cost of my ADT sticker system comes out to about $0.33 a year (so far).
They seem to have been built to last. No upgrades yet and they still work flawlessly.
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It honestly makes you wonder how they manage it. I don’t doubt that payroll/timecard/time clock systems are brutally stuffed with business logic, codifications of assorted regulations, and other things that would make duplicating the stuff painful; but that doesn’t explain why the frontend program has to be so atrocious and brittle.
Sort of the same thing that baffles me about tax software: having someone munge a chunk of the tax code into formulas and decision trees, and even offer to stick up for the correctness of their conversion, is deeply nontrivial. The program that walks you through the decision trees and does some fairly basic math, though, is neither as challenging nor in need of constant updates; so it is always a bit surprising when it is so poor. Never a good sign when “Y’know, this would be better as one of those organically developed spreadsheet-o-dooms that always crop up in offices…” to suggest that software has gone a bit off the rails.
In any case, perhaps this would be better moved to the euthenasia pod thread…
I have Chrome, Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer 6.0 on my work computer. I require all three to use different internal websites and the payroll system.
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You haven’t looked at the Kronos sources? It’s an experience that’ll make you laugh and weep simultaneously.
Note, I haven’t looked at the new, java-free version, but hopefully it’s not a complete dog’s breakfast of munged up open source linux projects running on windows.
Incidentally I just love that companies now literally use “java free” as a selling point, and it works. The market has spoken!
Executives and their lawyers write this shit. People who are powerful in their organizations carry that bearing over into things like writing up EULAs and harassing the wait staff at their local restaurant.
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