The “you don’t look sick/disabled” attitude is inexcusable, but also grant that there is also an attitude, even in this thread, that anyone who really needs the limited airline space for their legs, and that fully reclining the seat ahead will clause discomfort/pain/injury, are seen as selfish (“he should have known when he booked the seat”), monsters, or suffering from grave moral failings. (I was personally called a “peak narcissistic asshole” by someone who’s apparently an omniscient psychic.)
I destroyed my left hip joint in a motorcycle race a long time ago. I don’t have a limp, I don’t need any devices but when I sit for a long time it seizes up and causes the most painful and paralizimg cramp you can imagine. I have to not only recline, even if its 3 degrees, but need to sit on the right side isle seat so I can stick my leg out straight. Most bulkheads and exit row seats work too. I try to give the stewards a heads up that I will be walking around to keep the joint warm. I travel often and even commuted over 1k miles each way weekly fo a year and noticed a trend. Over time, the airlines and their employees went from being incredibly understanding, even tossing me into first class a few times (I never ask) to now a variety of comtempt, dissbelief, not letting me switch seats after takeoff, force me to pay extra for a completely empty exit row seat after takeoff, and even threats of arrest if I don’t stop walking around. This has been across many airlines, mostly American carriers. The entire industry seems to have been corrupted by something.
This garbage started when the FTC forced airlines to advertise the actual price you pay for a flight instead of a fantacy. Their rsponce was to try and figure out a way to peel off as many perks from the base price so they could advertise the lowest number and then nickle and dime you back up to a profitable level. Hence the bag charges, food charges, hell I think Ryan Air actually charged to use the toilet, or maybe just considered it, I dont remember.
He was being an ass but I tend to agree with loungelover31 since I’ve had my knees smashed many times.
I’ve often been quite successful in curbing rude recliners. I find that if I stand up and politely inform them that the reason their seat won’t recline further is that it is hitting my knees. (In a deep voice while looming over them… …this works especially well with kids.)
Somebody blithely mentioned that 1st class could often be gotten for some small fee or only a couple hundred bucks… I don’t know what charmed life you lead but that is not my experience. Generally I find that 1st class doubles the price. Flying in the US is pretty much the affordable option unless you have a week to cross the country by train/bus or 3 days of round the clock driving.
Last time I flew they had divided the crap seats into 4 catagories: no seat assignments/toilet row. Same crappy seats and lack of leg space but further from toilet row. Same crappy seat with 2 more inches of leg room. And finally for twice the price a seat that is 1.5 inches wider with more legroom and big wide armrests.
Can we agree that the airlines are the biggest assholes in the room?
To be shure, but I’m guessing they are an influence on the degrading of passenger’s dignity in the eyes of the entire process. Just a theory, but if you see people be treated as almost literal cattle day in and day out, your perception and likely treatment of them will be affected.
The biggest assholes aren’t in that room, but far away in a comfortable boardroom, leaving frontline workers to deal with the problems created, sometimes getting it wrong.
battery is a crime, i’m curious if there’s any laws at play wrt forcing someone to delete evidence of a crime. i would have stated i want to have the man arrested and relay the video to the police, and the FA is demanding i destroy evidence
An acquaintance once stated that in larger cites, where personal space is purportedly at a premium, one’s “personal boundary” is smaller but their objection to it being violated is higher. I haven’t observed this myself, but wonder this book raises that option.
You genuinely believe that 1 degree of incline makes a difference? How could it? Maybe psychosomatically, but if the seats just came pre- inclined I doubt anybody would even notice. My chronic lower back pain certainly doesn’t notice a difference- both settings are equally tortuous.
