App to record sexual consent in the blockchain will be used to discredit sexual assault survivors

[SamSam]

@agger_modspil

Here’s a simple algorithm to decide if a proposed new technology is stupid or not:

def is_stupid(exciting_new_technology):
    if 'blockchain' in exciting_new_technology:
        return True

From my experience looking at over-hyped “future-tech” sites, I can extend that:

    ...
    else if rand() > 0.01
        return True
    else
        return Probably

[SamSam]

@AllegedSausageRoll

This is so gross. Even fringe activities like BDSM are ultimately grounded in interpersonal trust. The whole point of a public blockchain to record transactions is ultimately a way of making workable mutual agreements in the absence of trust. One cannot possibly substitute for the other.

You’re right, and I think you’ve hit the nail exactly on the head of the point of this.

The creators of this app don’t trust women. They’ve been conditioned, through MRA beliefs or whatever, to believe that women are all pathological liars who will accuse any man that displeases of them of rape. Further, they still want to sleep with these women, because the only game in town is sleeping with liars, and then hoping to avoid rape accusations. Thus the app.

They can’t consider a scenario where they would want to find a partner they trust before deciding to have sex with them, because there are no women you can trust.

[L0ki]

@Hamster

but on the other hand, if I voluntarily want to be someone’s slave, isn’t that my business?

And what should happen to you in this hypothethical ‘voluntary’ slavery if you change your mind?

Clearly at that point, your slavery is no longer voluntary. So what happens? Does your ‘owner’ continue to be able to lock you up, beat you or whatever?

If yes, then your whole argument about consent is rubbish and if not, then your ability to sell yourself into slavery is equally illusory.

[Hamster]

I was messaged by one of the mods, it sounds to me like some people might have been upset by my posts.

I told the mod I would stop commenting on this thread, and so I don’t want to answer this question here.

If anyone was offended by my posts, I also wanted to apologize here.

I was looking to discuss this app, I think it can be an interesting conversation, surrounding issues of consent, the law, social and ethical issues, contract law, etc. I didn’t think I was being insensitive, but I’m also a fairly direct person by nature, sometimes I don’t notice that.

If anyone wishes to have that conversation with message me, we can do it elsewhere.

[AndreStmaur]

@SamSam

@AllegedSausageRoll

This is so gross. Even fringe activities like BDSM are ultimately grounded in interpersonal trust. The whole point of a public blockchain to record transactions is ultimately a way of making workable mutual agreements in the absence of trust. One cannot possibly substitute for the other.

You’re right, and I think you’ve hit the nail exactly on the head of the point of this.

The creators of this app don’t trust women. They’ve been conditioned, through MRA beliefs or whatever, to believe that women are all pathological liars who will accuse any man that displeases of them of rape. Further, they still want to sleep with these women, because the only game in town is sleeping with liars, and then hoping to avoid rape accusations. Thus the app.

They can’t consider a scenario where they would want to find a partner they trust before deciding to have sex with them, because there are no women you can trust.

You probably have something very important here, but I am not sure it is exactly as you are saying it. I think that the kind of men who are likely to be interested in that technology find it difficult to trust anyone or anything, not just women in particular.

(Edit) I’ll add something. The men who had this idea of recording consent are a particular kind of men. I jocked earlier that they are probably virgins, which was a bad joke, but they certainly have few actual contacts with women or they would not come with such a silly idea. On the other side of the spectrum we have hollywood celebrities full of themselves like Weinstein who would not even dream about recording consent, for the very reason that they do not care about the opinion of other people, women in particular.

[bucaneer]

That throws a NameError: name 'Probably' is not defined.

You forgot to put

import lazy_quantum_computing

at the top there. It’s pretty straightforward:

>>> type(Probably) is bool
True
>>> Probably == True
True
>>> Probably == False
True

[cre8love4all]

You can build a building out of matchsticks and it will function. You can wire electrical circuits without circuit breakers and they will function. You can have a benevolent dictator and your government will function. You can sign a power of attorney giving control of your finances to a kind stranger you met last night. You can do a lot of things and function.

[RickMycroft]

While they’re at it, can they embed other things in the blockchain, like rating as a bed partner?

For Science!