This is the one Graham Hancock built a whole episode on
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when ya gotta fish⊠you gotta get a boat!
and when ya get a boat⊠your fish just got a whole lot more expensive, dinnit?
even these ancient barques cost many man-hours to construct and maintain. i wonder if they ever actually made a return on the effort? perhaps they had more fish to catch en masse with nets and all and thatâs made it worthwhile to feed families?
DB and i just talked about fish-eating folk of the dynastic eras of Mesopotamia. of course those people ate fish caught in the rivers and marshy wetlands of the Tigris/Euphrates around sites like Ur. thing is, fish bones donât really preserve well over 3-4000 years and flotation sifting of detritus may reveal some bones that have been mistaken for needles. context tells us that - finding these âneedlesâ in the scrap pits adjacent to âkitchenâ areas, were simply evidence that these people ate fish.
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The episode seems to have aired since then.
I didnât listen to it (youâd have to pay me a lot of money to listen to either Joe Rogan or Graham Hancock, and an inordinate amount plus a feudal hold over a small principality to listen to both), but I have read some of the comments under the YouTube video (which I wonât link here).
While many of the comments belittle Flint as expected based on his appearance or mannerisms and many just declare Hancock the winner without further evidence, there are some very encouraging ones, like this one
â @michaelblurry6559 I came into this as a Graham Hancock fan but Iâm about 90 minutes in and he seems like a total charlatan at this point already. Lol even the way he gets so easily triggered is so reminicisent of conversations Iâve had calling people out on their BS. Weâll see how this plays out by the end
or this one
Iâm not halfway yet but as a fan of Hancock I gotta say Dibble is coming in strong.
or this one
I came into this debate as a huge Hancock fan (still am) and expected him to own. However 2 hours in and Dibble has actually been more persuasive to me. Graham can speculate and hypothesis (and it is fun and interesting to do so) but at the end of the day, the bar is extremely high for scientifically accepted evidence.There is scant evidence to support an âadvancedâ civilization 12k plus years ago. Sure it is possible, but the evidence is not there
That said, I also saw a lot of comments along the lines of this one
Iâve been watching Graham for years thanks to Joe. But Flint Dibble is also very enjoyable to listen to. Good to see a nice conversation but two professional. Nobody can be 100% right in any profession, itâs also healthier to listen to other opinions
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Regardless of whatâs being discussed. This is a huge win for academia. The most viewed/heard academic debate in human history happened here today!
They actually seem to believe Hancock is a professional archaeologist or at least operates at the same level as Flint and that this is an academic debate. So there is also merit to the criticism that Flint is legitimising Hancock. Then again, they already believed that, and every person turned away from pseudoscience counts. So I think Flintâs appearance was probably a net positive.
(Also, for those understandably wondering about the name: Flint Dibbleâs father was noted palaeolithic archaeologist Harold Dibble, who apparently had a sense of humour and devotion to his profession. His brother is called Chip)
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Could he not have called one of them âOfficerâ? So close!
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At least heâs not called Flake.
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'bout time.
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Is that what inspired this? 
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MARKING TIME
Radiocarbon timestamps left in ancient tree rings by cosmic ray bombardments can date historical events with unprecedented precision
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Arguably, when I attempt to write stuff down, yes.
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Doctorâs handwriting?
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Such superb work!
The article linked at the end made me unhappy:
Yet compared with a Miyake event [774â75 C.E.], [the Carrington Event] in 1859 are âbarely a blip,â says Charlotte Pearson, a dendrochronologist and radiocarbon scientist at the University of Arizona. Carbon-14 records in tree rings from 1859 show virtually no upticksânothing approaching the massive spike caused by Miyake events.
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I bet no one credits aliens or Atlanteans with having dug those.
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Wexler is the senior properties historian
Kinda strange that a prehistoric site employs a historianâŠ
(And yes, I know thatâs just because English Heritage almost exclusively cares for historic buildings otherwise, since the carve out of Historic England and thatâs the title they use)âŠ
I honestly donât know how wise it is to open a cave site to the public in this day and age. They donât have cave paintings that would be threatened by humidity, of course, but it seems like there are side tunnels that have in situ tools and things. Canât be great to change the stable climate?
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Detectorists Assemble!
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Not related, adding here because of reply limitation.
Not entirely sure where to put this.
Modern interpretation of statue, arguably NSFW
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