No they didn’t being guns, maybe the government would have been more careful if they had. They treated the Black Panthers quite a bit more carefully with the state capital protest for the right to carry. Sure they all got arrested but no one got shot.
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It sounds like you are saying the only form of legitimate protest is some degree of self emolation. While that is one way to protest, I don’t see why it should be the only one.
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No, I’m saying the only form of protest that can be legitimately deemed non-violent is that which does not involve threats of violence to others.
There are other forms of protest. Occasionally they may even be justified. They just don’t get to call themselves “non-violent.”
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I legit do no understand your points at all.
Are you saying people should arm themselves against the police?
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@codinghorror - any idea why my url caused almost the entire page to be auto-embedded in the post?
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/
It shows you which side is the bad guys.
See the kids not shooting the cops in retaliation? That’s what non-violent protest looks like.
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So the protest is violent even if no actual violence occurs?
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Gets a cop fired. Gives money to the students being pepper sprayed. Brings positive attention to the cause.
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When they say they’re “willing to kill and be killed’ if necessary”, yes.
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Completely stopped by whom? There are two million people, and it might be thunder in the same place if they were all moved to take form from nothing and learn again in the same movement as each different. When you stock this, you seem to be speaking for each trunk but you aren’t sifting my speech.
It is an endless walk back. If completely limiting is completely ending by profiting, and my profiting has a step of notable careers, the this is also a stands beside a standing thing completely ending fitness of a person straightforward down from the speech’s explained limit. It is from birth an imprisoning rather than hindering method.
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And I think that is ridiculous. You shouldn’t have to throw yourself at a wall of violence in order to engage in effective peaceful protest. If the government were not so eager to initiate violence against protesters, I could see your point.
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That would shut them up fast I think.
Feds: So you want us to only do things the Constitution says?
Right wing ‘Patriot!’: That’s right!
Feds: Okay, the Constitution says nothing about paying for disability so we are cutting that off right now.
Right wing ‘Patriot!’: Now wait a sec…
Feds: Okay, the Constitution says nothing about paying for roads or things like that so, we’re stopping any grants for that
Right wing ‘Patriot!’: Huh? What?
Feds: Isn’t that what you wanted?
Right wing ‘Patriot!’: No,…what…MAH GUNS!!
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What is that? couldn’t find it in imdb…
I never said it wasn’t effective just that they shouldn’t have to subject themselves to state violence in order to get their message across.
When a person with a weapon says “do as I say and nobody gets hurt!” then yes. Yes it is.
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Well then pretty much every encou ter with a police officer is a violent one.
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So as of today the 30 second news provided of this incident says the ranchers still don’t want the help of Militia UnLooked4, the government is going to do it’s worst, which in this case is, ignore the nutbars, which really, really is the worst thing they can do to these dramatists.
Hilarious. Way to go, YeeHawders!
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“Effective peaceful protest” means you are not the one bringing (or threatening to bring) the violence.
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