You’re right, it’s just that Dune’s worldbuilding is so elaborate and literal that integrating it sanely into dialog is obviously a bag of balls. It’s part of what made the acting so bad in the movie, that you had them constantly mouthing and stumbling over literary caprices that enrich a novel’s internal space but on screen are just people explaining the world they live in to one another constantly.
If they did a faithful adaptation you’d have audiences furious that they sat through the whole movie without getting to see a single alien.
I recently read Heretics of Dune and decided that’s probably where I’m going to exit the series. The twist ending was a little too ridiculous for me:
[spoiler]BENE GESSERIT: Oh no, these new sexy space witches are even better at sex than we are!
SEXY SPACE WITCHES: That’s right! And we will use our sex skills to enslave all of humanity, beginning with the seduction of this teenage Duncan Idaho ghola!
DUNCAN IDAHO: Oh baby yeah
SEXY SPACE WITCH: Oh my god, this teenager is even better at sex than I am! I am simultaneously defeated and uncontrollably aroused.
DUNCAN IDAHO: That’s how I roll, baby.[/spoiler]
Was Heretics written by Rothfuss??
And don’t forget how, instead of decades of water reclamation and engineering, it merely takes a proclamation from Muad’Dib to make it start raining on Arrakis.
(Apparently the Kwisatz Haderach has weather control powers, along with the lethal voice).
You’re too young to understand it now, Little Sally, but nothing can kill a show like too much exposition.
Yeah. everything after God Emperor is, to say the least, dubious.
Some people start that distinction earlier.
This is great news! I would love to read the storyboard to Jodorowsky´s Dune (the big book shown in the documentary), does anybody know if it has ever surfaced online?
I’m not sure where they’d start it before God Emperor. It’s been awhile since I’ve read Messiah and Children but I liked both of them a lot. God Emperor is important to wherever they were going with that but it kind of sucks. I couldn’t get into Heretics at all so that’s where I bailed.
Kind of a shame because I bought Heretics and Chapterhouse at the same time.
I once emailed the art book company Taschen to see if the big book was on their radar. They responded and said yes, they were interested in publishing it, but the right were complicated and they were working on it…so there’s that!
That’s mostly what I meant.
I like God Emperor, but a lot of people don’t. So, I was trying to say that while I personally think that Heretics is the start of a huge drop in quality (that continues in Chapterhouse and accelerates in Hunters and Sandworms), others have told me that, in their opinion, the drop in quality starts with God Emperor.
Clearly there’s room in the world for an epic fan fic I’m a setting where nothing after God Emperor happened.
Also, nothing written by Brian and Kevin.
On the super-geniuses front, I don’t think this is a big issue as it might appear. Much like watching NFL football where everyone on the field is roughly the same size and ability, and you only notice the difference when they stand next to a normal person, likewise we won’t notice the differences with everyone being super-geniuses in a movie.
Based on the book or the game?
Speaking of I think most of the exploration team did not deserve to be there.
Oh and Ross from Game Dungeon and Mind of Freeman did a review of Rama, AND managed to source a high quality version of the soundtrack.
You’re welcome!
I guess they could cheat a little and borrow material from the follow-up books which did finally involve aliens.
You could probably correct that by using more than just the book of Dune, much as the miniseries did. Even just taking Dune and Dune Messiah you could probably manage three movies (though I think ending it at children of Dune, as the miniseries did, is probably best, but won’t fit in a trilogy IMHO.)
The problem with the Lynch film, was the insane addition of “weirding modules” which were invented out of whole cloth for the film, and completely compromised the original story. Not to mention both Kyle and Sean were both horribly miscast while the rest of the cast was perfect. I’d read once… decades ago probably, that it was originally a 14-hour screenplay.
There’s just far too much detail even within the main novel Dune, which isn’t a long novel, to even attempt a film, and I’m with whomever said it would be horrid stretching it out as a trilogy that’s released over three years (if not longer.)
I’d honestly love to see them start at the beginning of the entire (current) canon… including the prequels from Brian… and make it a series on HBO/Amazon/Netflix - a studio willing to spend the money.
Agreed.
I’m just waiting for Greg Bear sci-fi gems to be made into movies.