Avengers: Endgame smashes records with $1.2bn box office

I’ve long been what you would consider a film snob but even with that this is some serious gatekeeper bullshit that just makes the rest of us look bad. Having big budget tentpole blockbusters isn’t killing cinema now any more than it was 20 or so years ago when this began to be a thing.

Filmmakers aren’t throwing in the towel and hanging it up because they simply can’t compete with these big budget films and the Internet is making it easier than ever for small studios to get recognized. Just look at all the interesting and incredibly risky films that are getting distributed on platforms like Netflix, Amazon, and even YouTube that are getting acclaim and notice.

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No, it’s not been out a week yet, and the movie itself (and plot points) aren’t really the topic anyways.

You could always start a spoiler-filled thread to discuss it, so people who haven’t seen it yet can avoid that, because they know it will have unblurred spoilers.

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Well yeah but several people now are posting open spoilers which is why i brought it up.

I was re-watching Infinity War last night and one thing kept nagging at me.

Spoilers for Infinity War follow...

Maybe I’m just missing some Comic Book Logic™ here but I just couldn’t wrap my head around how Dr Strange could be so useless. When Strange, Iron Man, and Spider-Man were on the spaceship heading toward Titan, why couldn’t he just open a portal back to Earth? During the battle on Titan, why couldn’t he just freeze time and allow his cohorts as much time as needed to remove Thanos’ gauntlet – or freeze time after Mantis put Thanos into stasis? Or why couldn’t he just portal Star Lord somewhere else before he started beating on Thanos? Or why couldn’t he just portal Thanos’ arm somewhere else?

Like I said, maybe I was missing something but after seeing his nearly limitless power in the Dr Strange movie, I was dumbstruck by his overall uselessness.

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Good thing I’m only skimming this thread then! :wink: I’d like it if they blurred them, because not all of us have a life where we can (or even want to) go see films on opening night/weekend…

A thread with spoiler warnings in the title would be a good idea…

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I’ve gone back and added spoiler tags.

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Thank you! Hopefully, we’ll go see it soon, probably next week.

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My kid asked to see it with me specifically; her social calendar is so filled up these days, I’ll take whatever mommy-daughter time I can get.

Other than that, I probably would have waited; seeing new releases during opening weekend is generally not my jam.

On another note; I ended up being right - I didn’t pay for a single Marvel film between Avengers 3 and Avengers 4 including Into the Spiderverse, though I’ve seen all but 1 of the 22 films (Hulk with Ed Norton.)

Given how much money Disney/Marvel made over just this past weekend alone, I don’t feel even a tiny bit bad about it.

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Right; it’s not like most filmmakers (or even film studios) would have been able to get anywhere near the budget D.W. Griffith had for Intolerance in 1916. Yet cinema continued to grow as a medium.

Because it’s stupid and wrong? Like… that’s the best sort of thing to be angry about.

This has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AVENGERS. Pay attention.

It’s about the habitual use of an ineffective and obviously skewed measure, when a more effective al somewhat less skewed measure is readily available.

Please… as if my rage is a finite resource.

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Infinite rage… sounds like a band name.

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“Making money”?

And has been quoted and referenced in this very thread, as well as extensively in the mainstream media, so feel free to cool thy jets.

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It just occurred to me how they should have beat Thanos in that boss fight. Instead of using her telekinetic powers to rip off chunks of his armor, Scarlet Witch should have just yanked down his pants. Then, before he could pull them back up, Thor or Cap drops the hammer on them.

Hammer pants. Done.

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That’s… nuts.

I can see you walking into the writer’s room now…

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So I’m really curious to know what the conversation between Captain America and Red Skull was like when the Captain was returning the soul stone at the end of the movie. I’ll bet it was pretty awkward.

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Pursuant to that whole off-camera returning-the-stones thing is an interesting twist that the directors have clarified: that the ending we saw with Cap returning as Old Cap involved him returning the stones and then going to live with Peggy Carter in a different timeline, not the Prime timeline that the stone-returning takes place in, because that would have resulted in a branched timeline. And that there may be a whole story there that they plan on telling that involves Bucky’s knowledge of the two Captain America timelines and how alternate-timeline Cap was able to come back to the Prime timeline with his shield (and apparently without Mjolnir?)

And there we are: the friendly Mr. Rogers

settles down in an alternate timeline, grows old and gives Sam his shield because he decided everything in his original TL can do without him? He basically gives the finger to his, erm, responsibilities in the unwritten future of his own TL? Ok. Maybe those sessions he had in his TL did change something, and he moved on. But maybe that just baloney blarney, blimey.

ETA: according to the words of TSS/TSA and Professor Hulk, shouldn’t those TL just collapse after he did his job?

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I like the theory that Cap was always Peggy’s unseen husband and was just laying low for 80 years, embracing his newly adopted 21st Century progressive values to become a full-time father and homemaker while his wife became the family breadwinner running S.H.I.E.L.D.

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