Average American Female mannequin vs. Average American Female

According to Roxy display, the plus sized mannequins weigh about 40 pounds, instead of closer to 30, and occupy larger boxes (45" x 19.7" x 17") versus (46"x15"x15") . They still charge 62 bucks for shipping, though.

Three days? Iā€™m disappointed in all of you.

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Donā€™t forget that each shop is competing with the other shops for your dollars, so there is a constant pressure for each to make their displays more attractive than the next. It isnā€™t a conspiracy to make us all feel bad about our bodies, itā€™s a competition to take our money by any means possible; making us feel bad is just a welcome side-effect.

I dunno, there seems to be somebody for everybody; just take a look at your happily-partnered friends!

Sure, i guess. But what does that, or your own cellulite, have to do with mannequins or modeling?

Be average, stay on topic!!

portray, passively?

Or shape, actively?

I say the latter, and it moots the rest of your point if I am correct. Think on it a second?

You can consent, you may even think a lot of things were your own idea!! but was your consent manufactured because the media limits your options, was your idea seeded by what you saw a pretty person do on the tele?

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average woman = plus sized in modeling language.

Newspeak!!

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Because other women worry about the same things.

Yeah, it would probably be easier if everyone just stopped existing and were replaced by inanimate objects. Iā€™m quite serious*.

Incidentally, Iā€™m having trouble placing your variety of English. My best guess is youā€™re American and adopted a few Englishisms for fun or effect. Thereā€™s a kind of bathos between the occasional Mary Poppins English terms you use and the generally American sentence structure (in English, itā€™s ā€˜come and fuck me nowā€™ - and most people will avoid a word rather than s**rring it out.); so Iā€™m quite fascinated.





*Iā€™m not quite serious.

I mean, in relation to body image - they donā€™t have mannequins with cellulite yet, do they? And with models, they donā€™t ever seem to have ANY.

Innately? Or because of skinny mannequins and admittedly above average women with strong opinions, speaking for these other women you refer to?

I think itā€™s your opinion. You can pretend to speak for the group though. It definitely balances your character out.

edit: that sounded ruder than I meant it to, but I am leaving it. I only mean that your experience is yours. Speaking for others is the problem, whether itā€™s you or Gucci doing it.

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Iā€™m speaking just for myself, no one else. Truly.

well itā€™s weird to see the leap made from this model to your cellulite to other people being partnered. I didnā€™t follow it at all. But thanks!

I do tend to free-associate and LOL, assume/presume that of course everyone can read my mind and know what the heck I mean! (Then thereā€™s times where I donā€™t get what I write, and other folks are like, ā€œHow profound!ā€™ā€ Huh?) In my mind, it all comes down to self-image and how humans choose to project it, collectively and individually. But then again, my mind is a very weird place; weird, of course, being a side-effect of awesome! :sunglasses:

Thank you for your graciousness!

Youā€™d have to verify that assertion by looking at a size chart, and then seeing the ā€œfitterā€™s commentā€ runā€™s large, actually try it on.

Sizes 0-24 are presented in this chart here:

0-16 are called Misses, 14W-24W are called Womenā€™s, or ā€œPlusā€.

According to this story

The average manā€™s waist grew from 38.9 inches to 39.7 inches; the average womanā€™s belly expanded even more, from 36.3 inches to 37.8 inches.

Assumming that you belive that a womenā€™s belly is equivalent to her waist-- itā€™s not, that would put the equivalent size at somewhere about a 16W.

But since the average bra size is apparently 34dd, equivalent to about a 39 bust,this would imply that Size 12 would be a better fitā€“in a less ā€œwaist conciousā€ style. Moreover, if a customer who fits a 34dd bra actually tries on a 16W dress, the fit of the sleeves will be odd.

And big flabby grandma arms! Bingo wings!
-Epic Movie

Iā€™m not all that excited about the mannequin issue, but on the issue of what ā€œrealā€ women look like versus models and ideals for women, I feel like it is a very good way for people to control each other and create competition. Iā€™ve been in lots of work places where the thin women talk about the time about their diets, and the fat women spend all their time saying, ā€œiā€™m being bad eating this roll.ā€ I decided a long time ago to step off that train; I diet and work out when I can commit to it and want to for what it gives me physically - the joy of exercising and being fit. I buy bigger clothes when my weight goes up and I canā€™t exercise so much. Men donā€™t seemed too disgusted by me. Having once been pretty much the ideal weight, height, size, skin color, hair color, eye color - talk about a time in my life when I was miserable! I love to exercise and am tired of the way women buy into all this garbage about a certain waist size or way of eating bringing them happiness, and the way that women judge each other based on their weight.

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Iā€™m very close to your chosen ā€œaverageā€ bra size, minus a letter, but If I put on a 16W, everything about it is gonna fit weird.

Womenā€™s clothing sizes, in general, are stupid. They have no standardization across brands, which means you could have several different numbers in your closet, but the clothes all fit you the same, inseam lengths donā€™t match reality (always an inch too long or too short, so you always have to hem your damned new pants), and thereā€™s no such thing as athletic cut (wide shoulders and/or big boobs? TFB, no button-down shirts for you).

More OT, though, the mannequins at most stores are smaller than whatever the store decides is a size 0. I know this because I used to be that much reviled size until I had a kid, and far too often, the article of clothing on the mannequin was the only 0 in the store for that particular article, and it was still held in place with pins or binder clips. I guess what Iā€™m sayinā€™ is the model and the mannequin are both outside the range of ā€œaverage.ā€

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thereā€™s always the european standard.

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That doesnā€™t help this Usian in the least. :confused:

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