She’s a good politician. I’ll give her that. I don’t have to worry about her embarrassing herself, and this nation, on an international stage. I don’t have to worry about her saying she’s for something that would be considered a war crime. She’ll say the right things and do the types of things Obama has done. Her motives and integrity are suspect, IMHO, but … a vote for Hillary is a vote for a Obama Part II.
If it came down to her vs Trump I might have to stay home though.
Yes. @daneel: don’t underestimate how much cross-voting happens every 4 years here in Michigan. Two governors ago promised Bush the Lesser the state on a platter, he didn’t get it, mostly due to cross-voting.
Between the rabid albino weasel, hedgehog and marmot I am torn between voting for them or turning them into outerwear.
It’s actually all about ethics in election journalism, you know.
MrsTobinL was wondering how much of the big R turnout was to poison that ticket last night.
If they voted for Sanders, it would be to spite Clinton more than to “spoil” the primary.
Clinton has won in all the deep south states that would never vote for a democrat in the general election anyhow. Now that those states are out of the way there are still 3/5 of the states to go, many much more liberal and likely to vote democratic. Bernie’s only loss big loss so far has been Massachusetts, between Warren’s silence and shady Bill’s shady ass shenanigans, he should have won it.
Clinton is essentially a pro=choice conservative, the republican party has no room for because she is pro-choice. http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33869-hillary-clinton-s-ghosts-a-legacy-of-pushing-the-democratic-party-to-the-right
How Sexist.
I am sure she can be just as bad as Bush/Cheney.
That’s the thing. To paraphrase Tolstoy, we’re offered a choice between catshit and dogshit, but one of those choices directly affects the makeup of the SCOTUS. I think Hillary can count on a significant amount of votes because of that, if nothing else.
And that’s the other thing. Winning because the voter is backed into a corner over the SCOTUS lineup? Well that’s a hell of a way to win.
I’d never stay home, though. When in doubt, leave it blank.
I’m not sure what poll you could be referring to, but regarding a right-wing Republican, I think they think Hillary is more difficult to beat than Sanders. They certainly want to run against a Jewish Socialist (who calls himself a Socialist! Sweet joy, he “admits” it!) from Vermont who looks like a harried assistant high-school principal.
I’m positive she’s quite capable. Thing is, who knew back then that Obama was projecting?
I won’t stay home. Shit in 2012 I voted for Gary Johnson.
Projecting from this season’s finished primaries is not going to give reliable numbers. When Clinton lost to Obama In 2008, she took the southern states, just like she has this time. But now there are no more big southern states for her to take. The northern states were for Obama, and this time around they’re for Sanders.
Her biggest problem this cycle, is that we’ve seen her make this play before, and we watched her lose to someone who was generally considered a long shot. Given what happened in 2008, it’s not hard at all to imagine a repeat performance.
She’s working on it. Her foriegn policy experience she has touted as strength has been horrendous. https://theintercept.com/2016/02/18/hillary-clinton-with-little-notice-vows-to-embrace-an-extremist-agenda-on-israel/ http://forward.com/opinion/national/324013/how-i-would-rebuild-ties-to-israel-and-benjamin-neta/
Biggest difference for Clinton this time is that the media is in her favor, whereas in 2008 they were tripping over themselves to be the first to criticize her hair, clothing, makeup and tone of voice at every turn.
If the Republican nominee were guaranteed at this point, maybe. However open primary states do require each voter to choose one or the other party’s primary to vote in; you don’t get 2 votes. Most Republicans who are that into the race (and that delude in re their own individual impact) are too concerned about their own nominee to waste a vote in the Democratic primary.
Beyond that, Republicans and those who surround them socially tend to loathe Hillary passionately. They are more likely to cross-over to vote for her in an open primary, on the assumption she is more disliked by the public overall than is truly the case.
The ‘right wing Republicans’ who think Sanders’ ethnicity, religion and nominal political affiliation matter that much to the electorate today are all in nursing homes. Their great-grandchildren will be voting in November, and they have no shits to give about these archaic distinctions.
When will the story turn to Clinton’s collapse rather than Clintons inevitability? I don’t know. Depends on how long she can resist her impulse to fire staff. Does she have the will power?
