Biden: I will not pardon Trump

This includes Florida, correct? Or will he have to go to Texas?

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Hadn’t heard that term until now, but a quick google suggests broad beans are the same as fava beans. I only like fava beans with liver and a nice Chianti.

But we really should return to the thread topic, fun though this digression has been.

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You’re right, of course. See you next National Lima Bean Respect Day.
https://nationaldaycalendar.com/days-2/national-lima-bean-respect-day-april-20/

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GODDAMMIT i cant believe i missed it – AGAIN

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Dammit! I almost had you. I’ll have to try harder.

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I don’t know. Not a lot rhymes with ‘justice’.

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I do think Putin would accept and not extradite Trump, just to thumb his nose at the US.

But Putin may be facing his own problems by that point, including a populace that is also becoming quite disenchanted with how he is handling Covid-19. Which bears a lot of similarity to how Trump is handling it, actually: leave it to other regional governors, without much help and no planning or direction.

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The thing is, I was thinking the same thing over 30 years ago. Further than that, when I was in high school, he was fairly much in the news or other media all the time; when I was in college someone ran an op-ed in the student paper extolling Trump’s virtues and going on about what a loser Garry Trudeau is and, (then) hypothetically, wouldn’t we all be so much better off if Trump were president and not Trudeau? (I’m not so certain that author would’ve been happy with their preference about 30 years later.)

I hadn’t & wouldn’t have given Trump a 2nd thought :eight_spoked_asterisk: until 2005 or so (maybe a bit earlier), when Letterman was showing a clip from The Apprentice. I saw the hair (which Letterman probably pointed out) & wondered “my gracious, what the hell’s happened to Donald Trump?” And “where’d they pull him out of?” as he seemed such a has-been by then. OTOH maybe he’d remained popular all along and, not caring anyway, I simply didn’t realize.

Fast-forward to the Obama presidency, 2010 or so, and there was seemingly no microphone, megaphone etc. that someone did not want to give to this bigoted, buffoonish game show host/property owner that plays a billionaire on TV.

:eight_spoked_asterisk:(I recall a pizza commercial somewhere along the way. I’ve never seen Home Alone in its entirety and none of its sequels.)

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I will not pardon Trump if someone will remind me.

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I’ll believe it if/when Trump dies in prison. Until then, this is just politician mouth noises to me.

Great that he said it, I guess, but if anybody has shown that politicians can lie with absolute impunity and no consequences, it’s Trump.

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They are a lot like Fava Beans which we grow and which are delicious.

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The pardon Nixon received from Ford was a blanket pardon for anything he might have done. Obviously it can’t apply to things he might do in the future but it could apply to any past federal crime. State crimes on the other hand…

Biden effectively announced that The Don will die in SingSing, not Bethesda. The Don would rather avoid that. I hope Biden has a premium-grade security team. Tragedy lies just around the corner.

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Why are presidential pardons a thing? I’m really confused as to why that was thought a good idea? Is it something to do with the benevolence of the president to pardon some poor person that stole a loaf of bread? Presumably the rationale was never overt corruption?

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Ouch, after the stroke caused by an elected Black man as President, can you imagine the hullabaloo that would greet an unelected Black woman? They might all just stroke out and become a non-issue, of course. Yes, let’s stick to that thought!

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Once the pinball machine starts flashing the “TILT” light, there’s little point in trying to continue to play. Even if you say that points scored after the light should get maybe a 30% discount. No. It doesn’t work that way. You forfeit the quarter, and start again.

My threshold of bullshit was exceeded when McConnel was able to steal Obama’s SCOTUS nominee away from him. You can no longer trick me into a discussion about gaming the rules, because that was when the federal governemnt lost its legitimacy in my legal opinion.

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Sorry, already taken.

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I couldn’t agree more. They have abandoned even the pretense of legitimacy. Oh, and while they were at it, they rigged the impeachment, gutted voting rights, put Barr in as Trump’s personal attorney, and have created a situation where a significant percentage of reasonable (and unreasonable, for that matter) people have no faith that the election will be valid - regardless of the result. It’s going to be fucked no matter who “wins”. Maybe it will go to the Supremes again. Any bets on how that will turn out?

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I have been trying to discount the national media’s coverage, in favor of my state and county. Those guys seems to be doing their level best to try to keep me safe, wheras only the most blatently colorful human rights abuses seem able to make national headlines any more.

Alfred Twu’s map may as well be the next electoral college, as far as Im concerned.

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If he hadn’t said it, a bunch of people online (mostly right-wing trolls, but also a bunch of loonier leftists) would be saying that he’s going to pardon Trump, and therefore nobody should vote for Biden, or the Democrats, anyway.

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