Bill Cosby's 1969 joke about seeking a date rape drug

The more needed such social statue of limitation is. Many of us are not old enough to not risk living through major social changes, and being judged retrospectively, viewed through an unpredictably-now changed historical/cultural prism.

As good a time as any to point out that I had a problem with that part in the Illuminatus! trilogy when they spiked the punch with AUM.

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Oh my fucking god. Stop with this weird Vulcan-Gandhi word salad. FOURTEEN women have claimed he raped them. This joke was not that long ago. He is still alive, telling jokes. This shit is relevant.

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As an adolescent, I hated the Cosby Show for many reasons, but most of all for Dr. Huxtable’s constant verbal abuse of his son, including frequent death threats. Despite the laugh track, I never found it even slightly funny. As a parent now, I am, if anything, even more disgusted by it.

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Sexual attraction wouldn’t have the place it does in, for instance, literature, if it didn’t have a tendency to come on as if it were an outside force. Still, it’s usually somewhat stable. You can incorporate it into your mental image of yourself in the same way you can with other appetites. Adolescence is hard because that’s when attraction’s most apt to feel untamed and unpredictable. An aphrodisiac like the legendary version of Spanish Fly would be like being dropped without warning the deep end of puberty with alien attractions. Maybe this would just destroy a hard-built illusion of free will, not free will itself, but I don’t think that that difference makes the destruction any more excusable.

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Please understand - I’m not making any judgements here on the situation itself - I’m merely expressing that this is not the kind of thing I expect to see on BoingBoing, because I’ve been a reader for a long time, and well - I’ve always found BoingBoing’s stuff to be unusual, weird, geeky, and usually positive stuff. It concerns me that BoingBoing would see this as appropriate for their site - as I feel that the issues are better handled by other media outlets. It felt like BoingBoing was hopping on a bandwagon - and that’s about the furtherest from what I have come to expect from them. I’m separating the issue at hand from this. I hope you can see my point.

I’m a longtime reader - all the way back practically to when the site first started. That is my perspective given my longevity in reading this site.

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As a long time reader myself … Are you sure you’re not new here? They have shared plenty of serious topics for as long as I can remember. Is it because it’s about violence against women that you are singling this topic out? Do the daily posts about internet security and net neutrality not count as serious to you? The regular posts about police brutality? What is it about THIS post?

And you sure seem to be judging, to me. You’re judging it as mot worthy of BoingBoing, for one.

Speaking about sexual violence if women is “jumping on a bandwagon” but you’re totally not judging. Riiiight.

I wonder why you don’t claim the various Snowden posts as “jumping on the bandwagon”. As

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I’m really trying to avoid reading about this-- gotta stay prepared for jury summonses. But the earliest allegation of Cosby drugging his sexual partner (Joan Tarshis) dates from a period roughly contemporaneous with this standup routine.

I’m not new - and I think the Snowden posts are relevant to BoingBoing’s core values as I have come to know them - very nerdy, geeky, topics. I never said they didn’t cover serious topics - the Net Neutrality and Snopwden stuff fall into the geeky territory. They helped start the Maker movement, and such. This felt very “Un-BoingBoing” to me. That’s the only thing I’m judging - I’m not making any comments regarding the validity or not of the actual issues surrounding the case. I just wanted my voice heard about how I didn’t feel this was “BoingBoing-able” so to speak.

I have no problem with other sites covering this, and it’s everywhere at the moment. Websites make money through advertising and pageviews to a particular demographic. Stories are chosen based on what will be of interest to that demographic. The curators here need to know when someone feels like something isn’t as relevant to the mission and core values of the site. That is what I was expressing.

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Yer on crack (sorry crackmokers!) if you think this subject doesn’t fall in standard BB territory. Search the site for rape culture, misogyny etc.

Anything else?

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So what you’re saying is that “nerdy stuff” and men like Snowden and police brutality (largely violence against men) are BoingBoing material, but posts about violence and sexual assault against women are not.

Also, do you know what “confirmation bias” is or should I define it for you?

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You’ve been a member for a day and have written 3 posts, all of them in this thread. This is the thread that made you want to be part of the conversation. After all those years. This one.

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Such anger directed at me for expressing a simple opinion. I’m sorry if it doesn’t mesh with yours. I’ll leave you folks to the discussion at hand.

Yes, I just felt like commenting. I’m glad to see such a welcoming community here. Thank you for confirming for me how horrible people can be to others on the Internet…yet again.

Opinions are like assholes. We all got em.

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Criticizing and whining about the subject matter - which happens to be about violence against women, out of ALL of the other posts you could have targeted from today alone - of a site you claim to love is “just commenting?” Just randomly making an offhand comment one random day? Really?

Also: Wahh.

That doesn’t sound like someone who has spent any time reading the threads here.

Stating a few simple facts means I was “horrible” to you. Hmmm.

I’m always surprised when BB gets a common trolley. Where did they get the link to come here? I can’t imagine sites with YouTube-esque comments would reference this place much.

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It’s looking more and more like our beloved comedian is in fact a serial rapist. Not gonna defend the guy. But if his standup comedy from the 60’s is going to be used as evidence against him… even in the court of public opinion, I can imagine the chilling effect that could have on future comic’s careers.

(Hm, let me think about that one a bit)

If good taste has got to override what’s considered funny? If humor is disallowed that talks about violence against others based on their minority status?

Fuck it, he’s guilty.

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Again - I had no other motive, and yes, one random comment one random day because it struck me. If you choose not to accept at face value, so be it. I’m no stranger to the Internet, nor am I a stranger to trolling. I’ve been online back to the days of 400 baud modems and BBSes. I certainly see a lot of angry folks trolling me, rather than I stating a simple opinion trolling you. You chose to be way more incendiary to me, than I to anyone else. Have a good night.

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And everyone’s apart from our own stinks. :poop:

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