On the other hand, poor people go to prison for long periods of time because they can’t pay fines for very minor offenses. As long as you separate the unjust punishment from the wrongdoing by one step via a monetary amount, there’s no moral element anymore. That’s the American way!
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Ah old Scott-doesn’t-understand-consent-Adams… what’s he got to say these days?
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But this is a corporation, and are we really lamenting the “killing” of one for legitimate moral offenses like the publishing of stolen, private homemade porn?
I’d be more worried about the precedent of this wasn’t followed through with. Gawker deserves what they’ve brought upon themselves.
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that’s some pretty selective reading and some pretty hasty generalizing. i’m describing an intersectionality of different kinds of privilege and oppression, and they create a specific culture that reinforces the patriarchy and white privilege. it’s pretty ugly and it’s not homophobic to point it out. i didn’t even mention the rampant transphobia and gender essentialism that goes on.
like Missy_Pants said, talk to some women of color about it.
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You may be making a rather arbitrary distinction between those options.
Gah, this should be a criminal case, not civil. Throw people in jail (cough Denton), extract a reasonable fine, and let the rest of the company keep their livelihoods. The crime was committed. The collateral damage from the ruling is insane.
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Trump support, hulk hogan financing, sounds like a real sweetheart!
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I was going to pick something from what you said here to quote and respond to with a Exactly! meme… but everything you said is right. Everything. You hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial head. And you did it with about 50 less posts than me. Is it the cheese? Is it the fermented goods? Should I be eating more cheese and fermented things?* How do you do it?!?
*Of course everyone should be eating more cheese and fermented things, I just want to know if they have given you superpowers.
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Honestly blame most of you mutants for helping me pull my head out of my posterior. I learned it from watching you.gif
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Thiel angry, Theil pay, Hulk smash Gawker.
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Oh here we go.
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Are you an American or are you a German? You don’t sound like an American.
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Republishing stolen sex tapes is fine as a shut-downable offense for a corporation in my book. I sort of wish that was what was happening here.
It’s not really the outcome, but the process that frustrates me. If that sex tape was of a person who didn’t have much clout, or if there wasn’t a huge slush fund of grudge money available to use against them, or if they simply had made more money so they could afford to pay then they could walk away from this.
Donald Trump once suggested that Mike Tyson be allowed to pay a few million dollars rather than go to prison for rape. That’s how this feels to me.
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I also would rather there were laws about this stuff so no budding Dentons could pretend they were “journalists” in the same vein.
But if it wasn’t for this fine, it would be consequence-free. I don’t believe we’re being given the option to choose between civil and criminal means.
I doubt most Germans feel that such measures have “solved” fascism, either.
This is where we disagree. Shut down the business unit that published it, sure. Prosecute the criminals that allowed this to happen, yes. But destroying so many innocent people’s livelihoods is spiteful. Punishment in cases like this should be surgical, not carpet bombing.
This illustrates one of the big problems I have with ‘corporate personhood’. It creates a logical entity that more resembles a video game boss than anything else, but is composed of real lives.
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