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Is Numfar doing the dance of disappointing site redesigns? Or joy? I always get those two confused.

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Yeah, my complaints are more about the diminishing of the written content than the actual layout. While I agree that two columns is confusing, itā€™s not hideous. The contentless clickbait is what bothers me. Ensmallen the pictures a bit so they donā€™t take up the entire screen, and use that space to allow for a full leading paragraph beyond just ā€˜Someone says some stuff CLICK HEREā€™ and most of my complaining would evaporate.

Hey, most of what I have to say has been pretty well covered already, and despite my initial dislike the new layout is somewhat growing on me. However, there is one thing that I havenā€™t seen anyone mention yet, and itā€™s bad enough that I registered just to bring it to your atttention even though the thread is rapidly approaching its sell-by date. You say the feature column is supposed to be chronological, but as Iā€™ve been checking back throughout the day, Iā€™ve noted that the blocks seem to be moving around. At the moment, the following stories are at the top for me:

ā€œPitch drop experimentsā€ in a big block (Published 12:00 pm Wed, May 7, 2014)
ā€œCassini Revisitedā€ in small block on the left (Published 8:00 am Thu, May 8, 2014)
ā€œHow to make a simple electronic musical instrumentā€ in a second small block on the right (Published 12:01 am Wed, May 7, 2014)

As you can see, definitely not chronological, or any specific order at all. The rest are similarly jumbled.  Any idea what is going on here?

Thanks.

I did add to the discussion, you decided to characterize my comments on your predicament, and are trying to turn the table so somehow the ad hominem is mine? Good luck with that! That would be like expecting a website owner to rearrange their content to please someone who goes on at length to describe how little attention they are paying. You are not my friend, I hear you.

Except it doesnā€™t seem to be working right. The left column looks okay, but the right column has had the pitch-drop story on top for a couple of days now, with new stories appearing below it.

The new look is growing on me, but I agree with some others of the commentariat that it would be nice if the ā€œteaserā€ text would be a little bit longer.

Day 3, and I took another look at the homepage.

Maggieā€™s pitch-drop piece is still top-right. Itā€™s a good piece; I read it when it appeared. I donā€™t need to read or be reminded of it again.

On my desktop monitor, BB has available screen real estate of about 370250mm; the pitch-drop story takes up about 220140. Thatā€™s a hair short of a third of BBā€™s homepage, devoted to one three-day-old story. I canā€™t avoid seeing this as simply perverse.

Put me among the people who miss autoscrolling on the proper home page; Iā€™m often busy, BB is often busy, and I like to catch up chronologically: so, more button-pressing than should be necessary (unless thereā€™s a pressing need for separate pages).

Incidentally, I see that BB is hot on the Geocitiesizer. Well, itā€™s a possible design option; and if you donā€™t like it, youā€™re probably just resistant to change.

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Nice catch. Iā€™d not noticed the overflow issue on post pagesā€¦ this is what it looks like to me:


I guess it changes depending on your aspect ratio and screen res.

FYI you can still see the ā€œclassicā€ BB at www.boingboing.net/page/1

Finally, on topic. It amuses me how often 恙恔恄 (sugoi) is translated to ā€œterribleā€ as it is in the videoā€™s title, when a better fitting translation is ā€œawesomeā€. 恙恔恄 can mean terrible - like if you were using it to describe bad weather - but in common slang use itā€™s an expression of how good something is.

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Did BoingBoing really need a new redesign?

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You know what might be interesting is to have the ā€œmain featureā€ box be dynamic based upon the reader. It could try to determine what current feature youā€™d be most interested based upon the readerā€™s BBS viewing habits. If the reader gravitates to the articles by a particular editor, those could be highlighted. If the reader never reads anything having to do with steam punk, those could be put into less visible real estate. If the main feature article is read, it is cycled out of that spot and the unread recent feature that the algorithm thinks will be most interesting to the reader takes its place.

if there is a vote, mine goes in really dislike bucket (hate is a bit strong, it doesnā€™t affect my life that much in the grand scheme of things, and I found that if I go to http://boingboing.net/page/1 instead, I get old school.

so no, go back, or donā€™t, itā€™s your site, I just really donā€™t like the new design, the actual content that I am looking for and used to seeing is now just thumbnails and the stuff that Iā€™ve already looked at, but maybe you want me to spend more time on that I choose to is taking up more real estate, but then again, maybe it pays to make the ads look more like content. Iā€™ve seen this format used on other sites I used to frequent (key here is ā€œused toā€)

2 cents.

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Youā€™re supposed to end with ā€œIā€™m not your buddy, pal!ā€

Every single phrase in English may or may not be figurative at any time. ā€œUnder two minutesā€ is figurative if you mean ā€œnot really that long but Iā€™m not sure exactly how long.ā€

Since Iā€™m too lazy to actually visit page/1, I found myself looking at the front page with fresh eyes this morning and it certainly didnā€™t bother me as much. I will say, though, that for me it seems to have the exact opposite effect it was intended to. I donā€™t look at the features at all, only at the left-hand column. I understand I have something that web designers call ā€œbanner blindness,ā€ and that Iā€™m not typical, but it certainly is one thing that happens with the new design - if you top to bottom, left to right, looking for the first thing that looks like content and then ignore everything else once you find it, the features get totally ignored. Enh, itā€™s probably just me.

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OK, Iā€™ll grant you that. I still think it was an unnecessary overuse of a very overused word, but acknowledge that it was not necessarily a misuse. :smile:

Itā€™s not at all just you, Facebook has trained an entire generation to ignore everything on the right hand side of the screen. I hate how my eyes bounce back and forth with the new design, itā€™s ā€œcognitively uncomfortableā€ if thatā€™s a thing. And like you, I find myself tending to either avoid the features completely when I scan for new content, or, ignore the blog posts entirely. Itā€™s not integrated at all, I almost treat visiting the home page as two separate sites now, and thatā€™s, well, annoying to me.

This is the info I came here to find.

I take it blog posts are reposts from around the web and other cool links, and original features are content that BB has created or paid to have created?

Oh, I was ignoring things way before facebook. But yeah, itā€™s obviously a defence mechanism where Iā€™ve been duped into looking at content I donā€™t care about too many times.

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And the fact that his original comment was making a joke about using the term.

Agreed, my eyes keep bouncing back and forth and generally just settle on reading the left side only. Its too hard for my brain to read down the left column, back up to top of the right column, and then down again.