Good ol’ unnecessary censorship.
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Damn straight! I do not trust implicits. If it is important enough to make a rule/law about - it is important enough to be explicit. Analyses is invaluable. But making people guess, not so much.
I still think that this is a silly excuse for “porn”. Not unlike the mysterious popularity of stabilized images, it is the same exact information which is available to one’s eyes and brain. Only presented in a goofy, gimmicky way which doesn’t offer any new information or context.
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If persons masturbate to it and it isn’t a sekrit fetish, I would imagine that it’s NWS.
Attaching bra catalogues and tire calendars to the walls of your cube does encourage a hostile environment for female colleagues.
Your sniffing doesn’t make it more appropriate?
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So the page loads with an ad that starts off with only the Best Buy logo… and a bunch of bubbles. I was thinking, “Wow, even Best Buy are into this?”
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That was delightfully silly. I’m sure people don’t actually get off on this stuff, right? [consults Rule 34] Oh…
That seems weirdly gendered. I guess it would depend upon who was depicted in those catalogs or calendars, and in what way. I am generally anti-pretense, that X media is “supposed” to elicit certain feelings.
Does scratch-and-sniff bubble porn smell like swiss cheese? I hope not!
All of this talk about bubbles has me thinking about bubble tea…
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Because women have the fucking sense to not put up cocks in their cubes. They don’t feel entitled to do so nor does it bring them pleasure to objectify 24/7.
That’s what tumblr is for…
I’m assuming you don’t work in an office, or among anyone. Those of us that care about being inclusive care.
You can do whatever it is you do in your commune(?) that seems to also not have to address the desires and wishes of anyone else.
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Perhaps that could be associated with the fact that our society is weirdly gendered. You always seem to be unwilling to acknowledge the existing environment. Sure, if you could get everybody to think about things the way you think about them civilization would be much more reasonable. But that’s a large job that you seem to not see as even necessary.
TLDR: Yes this is silly. Newsflash: people are silly.
edited to add italicization to the first word in my reply.
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I don’t even agree with this.
He doesn’t want people to respect each other, he wants boundaries to be “no big deal” and thus “respect”.
It’s like how people blame racism being caused by “Political correctness”. Sexism doesn’t flow from a lack of expression.
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There is no “object” to sex, it is an activity. Not unlike how the object of jogging… is jogging. So you either do it or don’t. Is me displaying a photo of jogging less inclusive, because you are not interested in doing it with me? If you were uncomfortable because you think it implies some personal problem, I would empathise. The crucial difference seems to be that of setting sex, sexual depictions, sexual actions as somehow categorically different from the rest of our lives - just because. Treating it differently is what I refute, the drive to avoid integrating it into normal, healthy everyday life.
I am an it, if you don’t mind.
I never said anything of the kind, as that’s not at all what I mean. Boundaries need to be negotiated, rather than assumed. But making them explicit and negotiating them as we go through life does not allow the norms and mores which most people count upon instead, functioning as a one-size simplistic model for everybody. Respect is axiomatic, people get it because they are an actor, a participant, like you are. It is based upon process rather than categories.
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It needs to get off of its lack of viewing women as equals, however you identify.
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But you refuse to acknowledge that most women do not want “sexy pictures” at their profession and see it as demeaning, which it is.
You blame this on puritan mores instead of empathizing.
You explicitly state your disrespect for the convention of respect because you “don’t trust laws” which is curiously irrelevant to the discussion.
You dislike all societal expectations put on you, but many exist for good reason.
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Not really. Without bubbles, you have additional information: the subject is wearing something, covering some parts of his/her body. That makes all the difference.
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All people have equal worth to me, I don’t apply broad categorizations of people.
I certainly don’t know most women, and I doubt if anybody does.
I dislike expectations put upon anybody, because it results in living in a world of stereotypes. It prevents people from negotiating boundaries as individuals. I am not qualified to guess what sex, ethnicity, religion, etc people may associate with, NOR what that association says about them personally. If I was in Japan or some such place with well-defined social codes I would be more accepting of it. But the US is contradictory in claiming to be resolutely individualist, while yet being terribly presumptuous about people. Once we meet, we can decide what our expectations of each other may be. But me presuming this without knowing you would be disrespectful, because I would be using stereotypes as a substitute for your own values and participation.
Why would you make up something I never said, only to them complain of its lack of relevance? To me, respect means not having expectations of a person I have never met. I respect if a person tells me that they find something respectful/disrespectful - but NOT by means of them claiming to speak for others, for some nebulous non-participants in the conversation.
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The secret is to get a job in the pornography industry.
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But - those areas are covered anyway, with the swiss cheese. So I see it as simple substitution of one covering versus another. “Look, I am not wearing green shorts - I am wearing blue shorts!” “Look, I am not wearing blue shorts, I am wearing red cheese!”
I suppose it must do with some people, or they wouldn’t be doing this. I cannot say as that that difference is meaningful to me.
My spouse sees nonstop objectionable content at her work, literally nobody in their office has anything objectionable at their desks. They don’t talk about work at parties either.
The most they abuse their “power” to traverse the internet is online shopping, of course.
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The issue here is that you don’t respect or recognize others’ beliefs.
Nobody cares that you don’t dislike watching sexual materials in the workplace.
The issue is that you confuse your own beliefs as something that should be enforced on others, and are unable to see why your beliefs should not be forced on others as “helpful” and positive.
You take little interest in the world and people around you, and think you know right and better from outside society. You’re your own society and subject to the same biases as we.
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They are using the bubble pattern to remove or ambiguate social context.
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Kinda creepy if the person in the photo isn’t OK with this “art”.
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