I’ve had shingles. At 35. It took forever to diagnose it because I have an anomalous reaction to that virus and never got a rash (which is why we thought I’d never had chicken pox either).
I had it in my eye. Did you know that’s a thing? You can go blind from it. I still have nerve pain on that side of my face and it’s been 8 years. And my doctor tells me the shingles vaccine isn’t really effective until you’re 55, so that’s a dozen more years before I can have that, too.
I’m so sorry to hear that.
Although if I were you, I’d get a second opinion on the effectiveness of the Adult Zoster vaccine. It’s the exact same stuff they give the kids for chickenpox, except a lot stronger more of it (needed to correct myself there).
Again I AM NOT A DOCTOR. My advice is to go to medical doctors when you have questions, and to use the tools of skepticism and critical thinking. This is not the same as denialism or questioning everything. Just do research, find sources that are trustworthy, know statistics, and be willing to change your mind when presented with new evidence that’s been found via the scientific method when rigorously applied. Remember that we are better at fooling ourselves into believing what we want than we are at changing our minds in accordance with the evidence. That’s just how humans have been programmed over the millions of years we’ve evolved.
TL’DR, that advice from the doctor doesn’t make sense to my layman’s brain, I’d get second and third opinions if I were you, as well as asking for the statistical evidence showing that the adult Zoster vaccine isn’t effective till 55.
I’d be inclined to dig deeper into why the vaccine isn’t “as effective” under the magic age. Something to do with sex hormone levels? Or is this one of those fuzzy “it is thought that” thingies I sometimes see in prescription drug adverts, which always jumps out at me as a huge red flag?
Agreed, that no under-55 vaccine needs some explanation.
No, they are worse than open carry or sovereign citizen types. At least those two aren’t likely to give your children diseases.
That’s a rather blunt and simplistic conclusion to come to. We’re interested in if the claim is actually true, and if so, specifically why.
Your answer is flippant at best.
The first question I asked in my comment addressed one possible reason - sex hormones. You might have chosen to address that question. You chose instead to make an ass of yourself and wish death upon innocent kids.
::golfclap::
I think there is a problem here with public health officials trying to cater to a very diverse audience. I’d also like to know things like why they decide to vaccinate for certain things at certain ages, etc. But I just saw an article that giving skeptical people facts about how vaccines work makes them less likely to vaccinate.
If vaccine schedules were done on a doctor’s office by doctor’s office basis, I’d be plenty skeptical of them, but they are determined by large groups of minds based on empirical research. Obviously that doesn’t mean they can’t be wrong, but I feel like I just have to be content in knowing that there is extremely little chance that I could possibly add anything to the debate, and tell the “I need to know more” part of my brain to quiet down.
For people who think they dont need a tetnus vaccination look up where it lives (DIRT) what do kids do on the play ground? they play in dirt. Kids love dirt.
Dont need a hep B vaccine? Ever seen someone in renal failure because of it? they look like shrek the days before they day.
Your kid would never have sex, so you don’t need a HPV, they keep denying that she has sex while the baby is being delivered in the ER. (sorry she was not mary and not a virgin birth)
The flu kills people. It kills old people and babies.
chicken pox turns into shingles when you get old. SHINGLES SUCK!
(and they die due to pneumonia secondary to the shingles because it hurts to move.)
none of this is every time, maybe they get lucky and nothing bad happens.
maybe not.
If I could refuse to care for people who refuse vaccines in the health care setting I would, these people are not going to listen to anything we try to get them to do, uncooperative and they know better then every one taking care of them.
Give me a marine with dementia Alzheimer and anger issues he will be easier to deal with then an anti vaxer.
Sorry about the spelling and grammar. these people piss me off.
Find another MD and get a 2nd opinion, I have never heard of a age requirement other then everyone over 55 should have one.
Medicare/Medicaid dictate when people get things by saying what and when they reimburse so it maybe a payment answer vs best practice answer from the MD
There is no cure for tetanus.
you treat the symptoms and let the person get better.
Mayoclinic describes it as.
Tetanus is a serious bacterial disease that affects your nervous system, leading to painful muscle contractions, particularly of your jaw and neck muscles. Tetanus can interfere with your ability to breathe and, ultimately, threaten your life.
it cost fifteen dollars and change to buy the vaccine.
choose wisely.
We’re not in disagreement that vaccinations are generally a good idea.
As a nurse, I am more curious about your opinions on whether and which should be mandatory?
No. Participation is mandatory. Mickey’s Fun Time Swat team will be at your door to collect you sooner or later.
Even getting chicken pox at six can be deadly. Before the vaccine became available somewhere around 100-150 Americans died of chicken pox every year. The number of confirmed deaths from the chicken pox vaccine is probably somewhere around zero per year.
I had chicken pox as a kid. It didn’t kill me, but I can’t say there was any upside to it either.
Actually this frequently discussed at work.
Everyone should have the choice, but those around them should be allowed to know they choose not partake in vaccines.
Not that it matters your health care choices is driven by insurance companies and lawyers, not by best practice.
Refusing vaccines should remove ability to sue for anything related to the disease process you refused.
(Ps it is all related)
Wait… You can refuse a, let’s say, Hep B vaccine, get Hep B and experience permanent injury, and then sue your doctor for not protecting you from Hep B?
That happens today?
It’s not just her MD. I looked into getting the Shingles vaccine for myself and was told I was too young.
If we didn’t have anti-vaxxers than unvaccinated people probably wouldn’t need to avoid Disneyland. But to your point, yes the warning was to all unvaccinated people not just the ignorant people who COULD get vaccinated but choose not to because they are ignorant. So technically - you’re right!
Yeah, that’s what I thought. As long as there is a simple, black and wHite version of the problem, and exactly one sort of villian to blame, then everyone can know which side of the divide they belong to.
You can go back to your three minute hate session, I think there’s plenty of Goldstein left to blame.
