Can chickpeas and date seeds save you from the looming coffee apocalypse?

Originally published at: https://boingboing.net/2024/04/13/chickpea-coffee.html

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Looming coffee apocalypse? like in a decade? in 2 decades? No one told the new plantation down the road from me that they’re wasting their time.

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I don’t know, I’ve never had a garbanzo bean in my coffee.

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calling this category of throwbacks “beanless coffee,” even though in some cases their products contain legumes.

For avoidance of doubt, coffee is not, of course, a legume, despite being called ‘coffee beans’.

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Chicory sounds like a much more likely substitute or mix in with coffee to stretch it. As it has been.

But people moving cultivation further north and south over time seems likely as well.

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Is this something like the potential end of bananas I’ve heard about?

I don’t like living in interesting times. :frowning:

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And chocolate, and…

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Because western civilization’s love of coffee is definitely the result of its intrinsically pleasant flavor, and not at all because it happens to be a stimulant. Likewise tea, maté, cocoa, cola, guarana – all just coincidentally with caffeine but easily replaced by substitutes without.

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Given that caffeine pills have failed to overwhelm the market, despite attractive pricing at under 20 cents each and exceptionally speedy prep time, it seems reasonable to suspect that there will be continued demand for variously elaborated stimulants.

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stay away from my Mormon Tea!

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Hopefully it tastes better than Postum.

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Yep. As European climates have changed over the centuries people didn’t stop drinking wine. They just gradually shifted the locations of vineyards around the continent. With more recent climate change they’re cultivating grapes in regions that haven’t had significant numbers of vineyards in centuries.

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The article seems to be just finding a hook that it can hang the “coffee substitute” article on.

If there is a shortage of coffee, I expect the largest solution will be a switch towards the hardier robusta plants, rather than a widespread uptake of these substitutes.

If coffee prices do take off, then I’d expect to see more countries follow Vietnam, which has turned itself into a major exporter of coffee

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oh, yeah! i’m here for Vietnamese coffee!

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Currently experimenting with growing Ilex vomitoria or Yaupon holly in my orchard. It is, to my knowledge, the only temperate zone source of caffiene. It came through its first winter alright, so i am encouraged that it’ll work here (zone 7a). Might be an extraordinarily valuable crop, eh?

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The vomitoria part doesn’t bode well. Have you tried it?

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Still can’t grow it in Pennsylvania.

Also- Puerto Rico was previously known as a top quality coffee producer.

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Nope. Apparently it was used in some native ceremonies involving consumption until vomiting. Sounds like fun. You can overdo coffee to the same extent, so not necessarily a deal breaker. Needs to get a good bit bigger before i can try it.

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“In other words, we will because we won’t really have a (taster’s) choice. At first it sounds like these companies are (chock full of) nuts, but it’s clear that the future is coming and we’re going to have to adjust our addictions.”

Especially after our coffee stores sank(a) to a new low.

:: ducks ::

Don’t be a fool(gers). You should really Caribou(t) what’s going on.

:: ducks again ::

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I really dig the decaf life; I’ve been drinking Pero (and Kaffree Roma) for quite a while. I had a grandfather who did Postum back in the day, but after getting discontinued and revived it’s not the most available.

Related: coffee genetics are apparently complex

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