Comedian mocks beaten women

[beschizza]

Originally published at: Comedian mocks beaten women | Boing Boing

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[milliefink]

Christ, what a retrograde asshole.

[danimagoo]

I wondered why this guy who I’d never heard of started showing up in my YouTube Shorts feed recently. Now I know. He had a Netflix special coming out. The short stuff I saw on YouTube was, at best, cringey, and, at worst, offensive. So this doesn’t surprise me at all.

[Mindysan33]

Ugh… what a fucking unfunny loser…

[Melizmatic]

Ah, the pretty boy comedian who uses “his Black friends” as an excuse for why he’s such a dick.

[nosaj]

I saw this one on the bbs recently, but can’t find the post. It belongs here too.

ETA: it was @Melizmatic who posted it. Thanks for the pointer, @Mindysan33

The full text of the Twitter essay is below, and is googleable on X, for now. It was in response to one of the many racist remarks by TFG that some tried to pass off as “just jokes”. As we all know, everything below applies equally to misogyny as it does to racism.

1. I wrote my PhD dissertation on the social function of humor (in literature & film) and here’s the thing about “just joking.”
2. You’re never “just joking.” Nobody is ever “just joking.” Humor is a social act that performs a social function (always).
3. To say humor is social act is to say it is always in social context; we don’t joke alone. Humor is a way we relate/interact with others.
4. Which is to say, humor is a way we construct identity - who we are in relation to others. We use humor to form groups…
5. …and to find our individual place in or out of those groups. In short, joking/humor is one tool by which we assimilate or alienate.
6. IOW, we use humor to bring people into - or keep them out of - our social groups. This is what humor does. What it’s for.
7. Consequently, how we use humor is tied up with ethics - who do we embrace, who do we shun, and how/why?
8. And the assimilating/alienating function of humor works not only only people but also on ideas. This is important.
9. This is why, e.g., racist “jokes” are bad. Not just because they serve to alienate certain people, but also because…
10. …they serve to assimilate the idea of racism (the idea of alienating people based on their race). And so we come to Trump.
11. A racist joke sends a message to the in-group that racism is acceptable. (If you don’t find it acceptable, you’re in the out-group.)
12. The racist joke teller might say “just joking” - but this is a defense to the out-group. He doesn’t have to say this to the in-group.
13. This is why we’re never “just joking.” To the in-group, no defense of the joke is needed; the idea conveyed is accepted/acceptable.
14. So, when Trump jokes about assassination or armed revolt, he’s asking the in-group to assimilate/accept that idea. That’s what jokes do.
15. And when he says “just joking,” that’s a defense offered to the out-group who was never meant to assimilate the idea in the first place.
16. Indeed, circling back to the start, the joke itself is a way to define in-group and out-group, through assimilation & alienation.
17. If you’re willing to accept “just joking” as defense, you’re willing to enter in-group where idea conveyed by the joke is acceptable.
18. IOW, if “just joking” excuses racist jokes, then in-group has accepted idea of racism as part of being in-group.
19. Same goes for “jokes” about armed revolt or assassinating Hillary Clinton. They cannot be accepted as “just joking.”
20. Now, a big caveat: humor (like all language) is complicated and always a matter of interpretation. For example, we might have…
21. …racist humor that is, in fact, designed to alienate (rather than assimilate) the idea of racism. (Think satire or parody.)
22. But I think it’s pretty clear Trump was not engaging in some complex satirical form of humor. He was “just joking.” In the worst sense.
23. Bottom line: don’t accept “just joking” as excuse for what Trump said today. The in-group for that joke should be tiny. Like his hands.

–Jason P. Steed @5thCircAppeals

[euansmith]

Comedian Arsehole mocks beaten women

[mallyboon]

I think the title “comedian” is being misapplied here.

[Grey_Devil]

[ashe]

I so wish the headline was “Women beat mocking comedian”.

[mallyboon]

Honestly, what is the world coming to when you can’t make light of someone else’s trauma? There might be real women getting beaten out there, but what about my ego? I’m not normalizing misogyny and violence. If people think it’s okay to beat women just because I thought it was funny, that’s their problem, I didn’t tell them to do it. I’m just being cancelled over a joke! Freeze Peach! /s

[Mindysan33]

I want to say that @Melizmatic might have posted that in the past? Absolutely worth repeating, each and every time there is some story about an asshole who justifies their shitty views by saying “it was a joke”…

[DiveGirl]

It used to feel like the jocks vs. the geeks. Now the geeks ARE jocks, and they don’t GAF about anybody else. We’ve created the perfect apathetic machine. Who’s also creating apathetic machines.

[LurksNoMore]

Ugh. That joke is not only ugly and mean, it’s completely unfunny. What an asshole this guy is.

[Mindysan33]

Honestly, I think lots of guy geeks were ALWAYS like this… they just hid it a bit better than the jocks.

[MerelyGifted]

[Kilkrazy]

I’m actually working on a new joke at the moment. It’s not going too well and I feel the need to reach out for some help.

The basic idea is that a stand-up comedian makes a joke so offensive that an audience member pinches him in the mouth, and he has to do the rest of his routine in a muffled voice, or something.

Does it have any legs?

[MerelyGifted]

“Well, that joke had no teeth, and now neither do I. Tip your waitstaff, folks. G’night.”

[newbrain]

OK, quite trite, but I think justified.

[gracchus]

@Melizmatic

Ah, the pretty boy comedian

That’s why the name is familiar. I read about him in the NYT last week:

Chiseled Cheekbones and Comic Chops: Why We Don’t Like Our Stand-Ups Hunky

The answer is that they can be funny, but not if they’re rolling out stale garbage like this.

Anyone who finds this guy “relatable” should check themselves.