She’s a lot more likable than me, that’s for sure. And yet if I wanted to run for office there are people who’d vote for me over her simply because I’m the white guy.
If that’s what he means with the 77% figure, he’s confusing us telling them (and for some of us… ourselves?) to “sit down and shut up” with what we’re really telling them: to make some room in positions of power for Americans who aren’t white males. Which is also one of the points behind this composite image.
No doubt. He’s an ignorant fool in a lot of areas, but running a sales meeting for a grift is something that’s come naturally to him since adolescence. Choice of venue is always key in that regard.
Yup. He’s even held a rally in Illinois. Not in Chicago, though, nosirree: as far from any city in the state as it’s possible to get, right on the border with southern Missouri and a stone’s throw from Kentucky, where the locals proudly speak with a Southern accent.
It looks like a good base painting to start Bob Rossing in the foreground.
The poor white population do have a difficultly setting, but they freak if anyone points it out. It’s called the proletariat or working class. It’s a difficulty they share with lots of POC, women, people with disabilities and QUILTBAG people, but rather than stand in solidarity with us a lot of them call it socialism and fight against their own interests.
All I can do is hope that groups like Redneck Revolt help them understand.
I like your interjection of points. It reminds me of a political theory I recently discovered by Robert Reich that there are four narratives that political parties have tried to sell us through out history. Now the specific subject of these narratives have changed, but the four have remained fairly constant and are:
The Triumphant Individual
The Benevolent Community
The Mob at the Gates
The Rot at the Top
So the Rot at the Top is real, but depending on your political leanings, you might not agree who that Rot at the Top is. And odds are you have some hypocritical views about it. You might curse big corporations fucking you over on this or that, but resist laws to regulate them, as an example.
http://changingminds.org/disciplines/storytelling/plots/reich_narrative.htm
Also, speaking of low polling men, anyone heard of Andrew Yang? This guy is pretty forward thinking about the future of our economies, but probably too forward thinking to be electable.
Maybe make a good VP?
Of course; racism is sadly never not a factor for some people, sadly.
But she’d still have a big head-start over you, due to the fact she’s already a political star.
I’ve been watching him. While it’s great that he’s talking about a UBI and government reform and while it’s fun to see a charmingly geeky guy try to run for president, in the end he’s proposing the kind of simplistic techno-utopian “solutions” you’d expect from a tech industry management consultant. He’s to government what the Soylent bros are to food.
Not really. “Forward-thinking” in that regard would be looking at things like MMT, not engaging in underpants-gnome wishful thinking or (over-)stating the obvious about the impact that automation has on the labour market. He’s going in the right direction, but his vehicle to get there is powered by the same old Third-Way neoliberal-lite engine that’s been proven inadequate to complete the journey.
My sense is that he’ll gain more attention and popularity over the coming year as the lovable and smart goofball candidate with the catchy buzzwords who’s an alternative to all the boring ones, then fall off when those Dem opponents bounce his proposals off the hard wall of reality.
The southern accent crops up in Illinois right about the time you get to I-70 or so (a good approximate boundary for southern Illinois). Central Illinois (Quincy, Peoria, Springfield, Champaign, etc.) has the usual Midwest accent.
Unfortunately, even in the Chicago metro there are plenty of Trump supporters. You can usually distinguish them by the Gadsden (snake) flags they like to fly from their houses or NRA stickers on their cars. He probably could have found a friendly venue in Will or Grundy Counties. Then again, that’s still close enough to the city that the sailing wouldn’t be too smooth for him.
I don’t think he is overstating, and is, like, ANYONE else talking about this? Pretty sure the things he is talking about will come about within my life time. Just like manufacturing jobs replaced by automation aren’t coming back, there are going to be more and more jobs like that in the future.
I don’t think he knew what he was doing, but his advisers did. They needed to start the 2020 campaign instantly in order to give him legal cover for the shit he says and tweets. There are things he says that would be illegal for the President but could be argued are legal for a presidential candidate as part of a campaign.
That sounds plausible. (I might add that Trump has been saying worse things for years, being as protected from consequence and insulated by wealth and celebrity as he would arguably be by any election laws.)
In terms of timing he is. As I said above, it’s important that a presidential candidate is discussing this issue and is suggesting that a UBI is going to be a possible solution. However, by the benchmarks of people following automation seriously this is a pressing national issue for the 2028 campaign at the earliest, and a proposal for a serious UBI needs a more substantive funding model and macroeconomic case than what he’s thus far proposed (which also undermines existing welfare programmes, including SSI).
Relating to the candidate being white, black, gay, or whatever? Yes, that criticism is pointless. Let’s keep criticism to policy only k? As long as the person has good policies and can beat Trump? Yep, that checked all of the boxes. As far as their gender, race, religion, or whatever? who cares.
The people who voted for Trump because they ‘care’ a great deal about the horror of a black man or a woman in the White House, for starters.
Running for office as a democrat shouldn’t require you to get a sex change or be an ethnic minority, that’s ridiculous. We have an opportunity here to get rid of a cancer on the White House. You want to say we shouldn’t vote for a candidate because they aren’t black, white, gay, etc? quit your bs.
That’s so clearly not what I said that I have to wonder what your agenda really is.
10 year… 15 years… 20 years… it is coming, and with the speed government moves at, I think the earlier we get a grasp on this the better.
Fair point his plan isn’t fully formed, and I am not even totally sold on UBI, (some people are probably surprised I am even entertaining the idea).
Of the “mainstream” candidates so far, Buttigeig or Sanders seem the most promising for me. Especially since Buttigeig ticks off so many boxes the right seems to care about.
Bs, this is the same thing that Bill Maher was talking about when he did his New Rule segment a month or two ago. He said: “You’re suggesting if someone doesn’t equal ethnic minority or something else, we won’t vote for you person, even if your policies are good. We showed you repubs. Liberal circular firing squad needs to stop”.
Most recent video I can find:
