Consumer Reports does not recommend the new Mac Book Pro

From what I read, the Pixel is notably larger and heavier than the iPhone 5 that I’m currently using. It’s even bigger and heavier than the smaller of the iPhone 6 models.

I’ve actually been considering upgrading to an iPhone SE, just so I’m sticking with a small phone. Current phone is starting to show minor battery troubles, and I don’t know when the next decent small phone is going to be released by anybody…

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I don’t think either Windows or OS X have a consumer friendly UI; what they have are UIs that people are, to a degree, familiar with and for which their companies provide desktop support. Anyone who has had to deal with the problems of the general public knows that, to anybody without a lot of familiarity, both UIs are impenetrable and they get used to doing a few things they know how to do, panicking if something goes wrong.
Linux already has distros which meet your spec so long as you compare the consumer-friendliness of the UI using someone with equal exposure to Windows.
Apple has the advantage, of course, that vertical integration means they can optimise the battery life of their machines in a way that general purpose manufacturers can’t, which is why it becomes so glaringly obvious when something goes wrong and the battery life drops to that of a generic Windows laptop. You can’t really expect any Linux flavour to achieve the same battery life.

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It’s a pity that Apple have lost focus on the Mac - the touchbar is an obvious shark jump moment - currently I’ve got a MacBook Air but the 128Gb storage is too small. Not sure what I’ll upgrade to eventually.

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What do you think of Wayland?

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Apple is tied with Asus. However, Apple’s score is increased by “Environmental reporting”. I tend not to give this any points as it is so easy to use it for greenwash/PR.
As a result, for everything other than phones we now buy Asus. I agree the differences are small but you have to make a decision somewhere.

Thanks Putin!

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I’ve been using Apple stuff since the Lisa, but bad battery life made me switch from iPhone to Samsung Galaxy, just like expensive Apples computers with crappy out of date graphics cards will make me switch to Windows/Linux machines soon.

Somehow I doubt you are going to find computers that are built by virtuous companies.

Which list Apple, Lenovo, and Asus as all equally least bad. There are plentiful reasons to decide that Apple is not a computer company that one wishes to patronize. Bad corporate citizenship is not one of them.

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I also have a 2013 MBRp. The last OS upgrade was the first time an Apple update actually broke something and I had to track down the fix with google. The last iOS update also broke my iphone.

That’s how you get tests that are just playing 1080p video as long as possible.

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A suite of tests is perhaps what’s needed. Play video non-stop, edit large video files, batch-process in PS, run some complex macro in Excel on an infinite loop, and yes, web-surfing. Publish the results in detail, not just the averages.

[quote=“Glaurung, post:29, topic:91717”]And what paragon of corporate virtue do you suggest one purchase electronics from?
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Unfortunately, you are both right. The best answer I’ve found is to get free/cheap hand-me downs, buy used (or from an electronics recycler if your village has one), buy broken gear and repair it, and make your electronics last as long as possible (which has the added benefit of requiring honest self-evaluation of your tech needs). Of course I understand not everyone can do this, some people require more current tech for work or whatever.

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I gave up on OS X upgrades when they became an annual thing; that’s when OS X got crappy and bloated. Snow Leopard was a high point. I did install Mavericks for some reason I forget though. Changing my workflow and habits every year because Apple wants to rush some superfluous and buggy ‘features’ out the door did not sound appealing.

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Somewhere there lives a person who only buys from companies that are paragons of corporate citizenship. They make their own clothes from handmade Amish fabric. They eat only locally grown food and semi-fast in the dead of winter when nothing local is available. They live off grid because otherwise they would be supporting an energy company that exploits its workers, destroys the environment, and practices genocide against indigenous peoples. And so on.

Indeed, they are so busy not buying from evil companies, so busy making their own things where no non-evil alternatives exist, so busy travelling back and forth to the library where they guiltily use the computers there to look up which companies they need to add to their blacklist, that they have no time to march in the streets advocating for better regulation of all the evil corporations that they refuse to buy from.

You can prioritize your life to strive to avoid the taint of commerce with corporate evil, which in modern society is an impossible task without inconsistency and hypocrisy, or you can prioritize living a life in which you work to make the world a better place.

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Every time I use a recent Mac OS, i think “darn, some of these changes are so much better,” like being able to resize a window from any point. And then I run into something where the emphasis on looking clean and pretty has made something so much worse, like the thin, invisible scrollbars making it impossible to tell when you can scroll down and when you can’t. In the end I still haven’t upgraded from Snow Leopard on my personal mini.

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I am getting tired of all these Putin bots.
Спасибо, Владимир Владимирович. С новым годом!

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Not mutually exclusive.

This argument reduces to ‘since one cannot prevent all evil, it is useless to prevent any evil’. Additionally, I don’t resist consumerism to make the world a better place (although I wish that was an outcome). I do it because it’s moral, it gives my life more meaning, and it makes me feel better.

An aside (not directed at you): Many of the progressive proponents of this argument are coincidentally the ones who are the most vocal about voting. Savor the irony.

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Yeah, I feel the same. Desktop iTunes is a good example of the shift in design. In Panther, Leopard, Snow Leopard days, it was a joy to use; it was laid out intuitively and made sense. It is now so convoluted and arbitrarily scattered with disjointed interface elements, that I dread having to perform basic functions (because I forget the layout since now I only use it once a week or so).

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Note I said prioritize. If avoiding the taint of association with evil is paramount to you, you will not accomplish nearly as much nor be nearly as happy than if you make avoiding buying certain things or patronizing certain businesses one of the tools in your activist toolbox.

What’s in your wallet?

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