Wait, I thought Sweden’s “R value” or whatever was really good and everything was working great now. If they’re the worst over the last week than the UK and the US (where I know it is running rampant and delayed counts are finally coming in) that’s actually worse for Sweden.
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For someone who doesn’t like vegetables, he sure loves to serve up the word salad
Meh. I have little doubt that he’s just trying to make something he briefly said the top story of the day again. He’s the master of distraction.
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I don’t even think it’s that deep. He’s just pathologically incapable of ever verbally associating himself with anything that could ever possibly have a “bad” connotation. He can’t just say he tested negative, because that sounds like he’s failed at something, and The Donald Never Fails At Anything, so he had to test positive for not having it.
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More “Reopening Fever”:
Eschaton / by noreply@blogger.com (Atrios) / 4min
I don’t know why people think they can just turn the machines back on.
While he admitted surprise - during a late-morning Hearst Connecticut Media webinar - at how small the response was to retail and restaurant openings on Wednesday, he said that consumers and corporations alike need to establish some confidence.
People don’t want to risk getting sick. People don’t want to risk infecting their friends and family. People don’t want to find out their night at Chili’s sent mom to the hospital. Going to a restaurant isn’t especially fun if you’re feeling rather nervous about being in a restaurant.
This is ALL about blame shifting. “Your restaurant went out of business? Well, we re-opened, so it’s all your fault now. Maybe it was because those evil, mask-wearing liberals didn’t show up. It’s their fault too. Fuck you and fuck grandmothers too. We hate you all.”
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I am no further educated that I was before. Who is this person? What do they have to do with a scuffle at what looks like a sporting event? What does that have to do with being on a Fox News interview? And what does it have to do with covid-19? I’m completely in the dark here.
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Intentions don’t matter - actions do, as I said in my post. And results matter. Sweden’s results to date are shitty; comparable with nations that had leadership functionally sabotage their response to the pandemic like the US and UK. It doesn’t fucking matter if the dead there are old, or in Stockholm. Dead is dead. Dismissing their deaths as expected, or not different than Norway, or UK propaganda is exceptionally callous.
As the evidence mounts that Sweden badly mishandled their response, I can understand why you want to stop discussing it. For some reason, you’ve invested yourself in the story that they’ve handled it well. At what point are you willing to abandon that position? Do you have a line, or will you move it along with the death toll. “100,000 is expected, they’re doing fine.” “200,000 is still better than the projections.” “Half a million deaths really isn’t so bad. We’ve done well, the best.”
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Sorry, I assumed you followed the links. She was from a radical animal rights group that had been protesting all the Democratic candidates, but she decided to take it a step further and attacked Biden at a political rally. The only reason she didn’t reach him was that Sanders tackled her a few feet from her target, and then Jill Biden helped restrain her.
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Attacked Biden? Holding up a sign and shouting amounts to attacking Biden?
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LONDON/BANGKOK — Healthcare workers in Britain and Thailand have started taking part in a trial to determine whether two anti-malarial drugs can prevent COVID-19, including one that U.S. President Donald Trump says he has been taking.
The study, involving more than 40,000 healthcare workers across Europe, Africa, Asia and South America, seeks to determine whether chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine could play a role in the fight against the novel coronavirus.
I really hope this is for sound medical reasons and not pressure “because Trump said so”, or as a placebo sop to workers going back on the job.
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I couldn´t agree with you more.
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The UK is in “first place” today at 5.3 per million per day, with Sweden at 5.25 from the same source
Then Ecuador at 4.49, the U.S. at 4.02, Brazil at 3.84, Belgium at 3.78, and Peru at 3.7
Everywhere else is below 3.0
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Not at all; I never said that. I don’t know how their response will stand up in the long run, and neither do you. I have no special love for the Swedish policy; I just posted the link with the latest numbers showing that immunity is not happening there and that one of the modelers is backtracking, would I have done that if I was advocating for their policy? I’m happier (for example) with the Norwegian policy, where few people have died.
But, we need to treat these strategies honestly if we are going to draw accurate conclusions from it. The way the American and British press have treated Sweden is cynical reductionism. Just look at the Telegraph story, misrepresenting the numbers so that Johnson can claim to be doing better than Sweden.
I don’t know what the R value is now. Here is a comparison of some of the countries that have been mentioned:
Looking at the slopes, I would say that Sweden is not doing as well as Norway, but I don’t think the US and UK have any bragging rights.
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We all suspected this, right?
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I wonder if this belief goes back to a time when they heated their homes in a way that potentially created carbon monoxide (or other noxious gases) build up.
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