Originally published at: DataToaster 3000 holds data, doesn't make toast - Boing Boing
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This just in: Video Toaster also did not make toast.
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Always vaguely surprised that moving disc storage is still (apparently) holding strong. Quite sure cost/terabyte remains the primary factor (still about twice for SSD vs HDD maybe). I’d still like to have some simplistic summary comparing SSD to HDD on data ‘lifespan’ vs time. (“would that be stored on a shelf ‘lifespan’ or in-use ‘lifespan’?” …uhm, yes)
ars_technica report from 2022, yet still disputed:
Five years of data show that SSDs are more reliable than HDDs over the long haul
Backblaze tracks reliability for thousands of HDDs and SSDs in its data centers.
Backup and cloud storage company Backblaze has published data comparing the long-term reliability of solid-state storage drives and traditional spinning hard drives in its data center. Based on data collected since the company began using SSDs as boot drives in late 2018, Backblaze cloud storage evangelist Andy Klein published a report yesterday showing that the company’s SSDs are failing at a much lower rate than its HDDs as the drives age. …
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The cost advantage really starts to add up as capacity demands increase. Plus; the high-capacity SSDs have had to make some notable sacrifices(ever more states per cell, with the corresponding increase in delicacy, and reduction in performance, endurance, and retention) to get where they are today.
You know that you aren’t in SLC NAND land anymore when the vendor’s “Features and benefits” section includes
Reliability. Endurance, in drive writes per day (DWPD), goes to 0.26 for the new device from 0.18 for the previous generation. Power-off data retention is increased from 1 month to 3 months.
Solidigm doesn’t provide a power-off data retention number for their D5-p5336; but promises .58DWPD!
Yes, in fairness to the Samsung BM1743, it does actually bring 62TB to a 2.5in U.2 form factor; where a conventional 2.5in HDD will max out at around 5TB; but pushing NAND to those densities means flirting with data loss in ways that don’t involve total drive failure(also list prices of around $8,500; but that density tho).
You would, of course, be a fool to trust any storage device with your data, even the really classy pure SLC units that you absolutely cannot afford for bulk storage; but…sacrifices have been made…to get 16 states out of a single floating gate.
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So many possibilities for hilarious mix-ups! Someone could put bread in the data toaster or put their hard drives in the actual toaster!
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Frakkin’ toasters.
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generally writing a cd was called “to toast a cd” with a cd-writer, called “cd-toaster” in the old days. but I believe just by people in the media and ad industries who were really “cool” (oh, so “cool”).
(damnit, how I hated, fuckn hated working in advertisement…)
e/ ohyes, did apple actually stole that term from video toaster (thats where I know it from, cause everybody used apple in graphics/ads/media in the late 90s)? now nobody knows anymore, even apple doesnt;
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“…aawwh, shit! its stuck again…”
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“burn” was the colloquialism in my time.
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And architects. The cool ones with Macintoshes who kept designing buildings you could not build. “I cannae change the laws of physics!” is a real life thing for structural engineers.
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It’s been so long since I’ve recorded a disk on macosx-- I thought they used “Burn”
And indeed that’s the verbiage used in Tiger
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Rip Mix Burn
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