Debate: Trump admits paying no taxes, denies sexually assaulting women, says Hillary is the devil

He’s an unreliable narrator; that trope is nothing new.

But the comparison to Keyser Soze is an insult to the Usual Suspects.

Soze was brilliant, evil, terrifying and totally untrustworthy… but I still liked the character, regardless; whereas I just wanted to cunt-punt Holden Caulfield and tell him to STFU with all that whining.

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I know he didn’t own it any more, but this seems like apt timing.

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obviously the pundit class believes in green lanternism.

i hated that book with an ennui so intense as to make me have a waking dream of softly falling snow melting on an asphalt driveway in the back of an east texas trailer park.

books i hate with a passion i will sometimes read again but not that one.

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also see http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/us/politics/donald-trump-gop-hillary-clinton.html?_r=1

anything by William Faulkner does that to me

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Gerrymandering can’t and doesn’t effect popular vote polling. Nor can it have much effect on national level or state wide offices. That manipulation is what gives them safe control of the house, And state legislatures. Presidential elctor votes, discounting Maine are awarded on a state wide winner take all basis. And polling of the electorate isn’t effected. Since gerrymandering doesn’t change or manipulate the electorate itself. It just groups the electorate in a way that gives an unfair advantage in certain kinds of races.

The skew in the GOP’s electoral coalition is certainly a factor with Trump. But it’s sort of a chicken or egg situation. A lot of that predates (and enabled) current gerrymandering.

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The petulant whining seemed like half tRump just being tRump (i.e. the petulant child) and half a strategy to make it seem like they were out to get him. Like, if he complained enough, no matter what the reality was, he would seem persecuted. I was hoping someone would figure out just how much time each one spoke, because it seemed like he got a couple extra opportunities to rebut her rebuttals, so if he was being cut short, it was only because he was being allowed extra opportunities to speak in the first place.

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Plenty seem to not grow out of it, though…judging from the stunning number of fortysomething men I run into who, among other things, still proudly take their life philosophy from Fight Club. And that just being an amped-up 90s extension of the Holden Caulfield mindset.

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I finally read it for the first time a couple years ago, and, while not thinking it was the classic so many claim it is, I enjoyed it and thought Holden was an asshole.

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Burnett is probably aware that the footage would be slam-dunk evidence against his company in a hostile environment harassment suit.

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I’d be willing to bet that someone at Burnett’s production company is frantically “acid-washing” as much of the unaired Apprentice footage as possible.

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I think that’s Rob Ford.

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This is getting (even more) ridiculous.

http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

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About as far as one can get from Fisk, then :smiley: It is a sad reflection of a human life when a fictional character written to be a villain comes off as a more positive creation than an elected official.

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Especially a dead elected official. At least I think he’s dead, I seem to recall reading it somewhere.

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He probably just needs another hit of crack to get him back up and about again.

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Yep. He died of cancer this past March.

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Voter ID laws are being enacted in states where elections are set in stone from gerrymandering, and those do affect presidential elections by suppressing the votes of the less fortunate who don’t have political clout in their own state because of the way the district maps are drawn.

Without gerrymandering, we wouldn’t have these extremists in office or running for office. Every politician would have to fight for every vote. They wouldn’t be passing laws to suppress votes, they’d be trying to get as many people as they could to vote. And politicians promising to destroy the lives of the people who are against the party couldn’t be a thing because they’d actually be punished in the next election instead of automatically re-elected by their carefully selected electorate.

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Wow, didn’t know any of that, it’s very interesting, thanks!

My recollections of Catcher are of a mixed/messed-up teen who self-sabotages a lot, and for the verisimilitude it brings to that character I think it deserves its place in the canon. The literary allusions you mention enhance that imho. Will dig further someday, time permitting. Cheers.