Nope. For one, not all diseases are so deadly that everyone who catches them will die…for instance Covid has killed thousands, but left even more with miserable long-term symptoms instead. For two, I don’t know if you haven’t noticed, but diseases spread.
Was in Kansas recently - surrounded by anti-vaxers. When I complained about the farmers in the Flinthills area burning their fields, even though its an ineffective way to control weeds I was told, “Oh no, science supports that burning.” Really, is that the same science that tells you to get a vaccine?
What always puzzles me about the paranoid wing of the anti-vaxers is how there’s something allowing for a really dramatic range in trust levels. On the one hand they possess a capacity for believing the worst even when the evidence merely suggests the bad(eg. leaping from the position that pharma executives would happily let you die if it made the line go up to the position that they are actively killing you; rather than just overpricing, or treating an unfortunately late postmarket detection of a defect as evidence that everyone’s in on the coverup; rather than evidence that, in fact, enough people weren’t that they now know about it); but on the other hand they’ll sometimes leap to downright childish levels of trust if you flash the right cultural signifiers(despite the fact that it’s not a big secret that marketing people know about flashing cultural signifiers).
I can understand fear and paranoia; but when someone is zigagging between claims that the FDA approval process is some sort of satanic population control scheme and cheerfully trusting that Nature’s Patriot Colloidal Silver is, obviously, not cutting corners on QA/QC or actually just another pharma scam something other than overall fear level is at work. Exactly what and why, I’m not sure.
I think you really did answer it in the line before:
I often remind people that “marketing” isn’t just sales talk - it’s a branch of applied psychology dedicated to overriding and redirecting the gut instinct.
That’s sort of how education is supposed to work: it teaches the “facts” as best we understand them at the time, even if it contradicts what we wish the facts were.
Depends on which flavor of “Christian values” you are talking about. Love thy neighbor as thyself? Heal the sick, feed the hungry? Seems pretty much in line with those.
If I was the management of the facility, I would quietly make sure all my employees at the event were FULLY immunized and charge a premium plus pay hazard pay for the staff.
To me it just seems so clear that these people are trying to make money off of the gullible. However, they could also be true believers because I don’t know how you could be around these idiots all day long if you didn’t believe it. I searched twitter for replatform and it is a rabbit hole. Posts about admiralty law (apparently there’s some conspiracy that maritime law somehow overrules or replaces national law or some shit?), people making athletic clothing brands that “stand up for female athletes” (I didn’t know clothes would make your kids question their sex) and the replatform vegas account is weirdly obsessed with criticizing sober living places?
There’s a whole heaping pile of idiocy going on here, but once you’re already making the mistake of being an anti-vaxxer, I’m not sure there’s an additional failure of logic in deciding to hold a convention. Thinking that’s a good idea is an entirely logical path of reasoning from the extremely false premise.
Theoretically someone could believe vaccines are not worth whatever hypothetical risk they attribute to them, and still not think that infectious diseases are safe.
That’s true, but it would require someone to occupy a pretty narrow range of the space of possible beliefs for the risk-assessment to work out such that holding a convention for anti-vaxxers is a mistake but holding a convention for the vaccinated wouldn’t be.
Obviously zero of this is related to what’s going on in (almost all of the?) people’s heads who organize and attend these conventions, of course.
I voted today, because some anti-vaxx people are trying to take over the county board of health. I’m glad I saw a sign about them, which was supportive of their positions, but it was enough to get me to vote against those mentioned.
One appears to be running because they lost their job at the hospital, because they refused a covid vaccine. That’s not someone I want making decisions for my county. Nor the wanna-be megachurch pastor nor the one who wants, above all else, to “protect the unborn”.
Please, please, please someone follow up on this and let us know if there were any raging cases of Covid, measles, TB, Whooping cough or polio reported.
