Dishwashing causes more relationship distress than any other household task

My wife jokes with me about the same thing. But she’s not joking.

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No, of course not. Finish your dinner, now, or you’ll be hungry later. Don’t let me catch you wasting food! I don’t work hard all day for you to leave food on your plate. I swear you kids will be the death of me.

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*gulps wine
**pops valium

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Oh, pish posh, there’s always a pair in there you’ve only worn for half a day cos you didn’t get dressed til lunchtime on the weekend. They’ll be fine.

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that’s partly because clothes dryers are bad for your vibes and dishes
get clean but are still your dirty mind scape
and dishwashers don’t put dishes away… especially if the wife is pretty
as sh1t

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And, if needs be, you can wear them inside-out.
You’re probably dead should you be in an accident while doing thus, though.

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Apparently I must pamper the ever living shit out of my wife. I’ve always done the cooking and cleanup, plus if my schedule is open I do the grocery shopping as well. I think the number of meals she has made could be counted on one hand, but at this point I’m like meh. Sure I’d like her to make a meal once in a while, but I’m sure she’d like me to have more hair…

And realistically it takes me twice as long to prep/cook as it does cleanup, so I think clean up is the better part of the cooking deal.

Most of the men I know would end up living, and being ok with it and anyone seeing it, a filth level of 3/10. While their wives are ok with 2/10, unless you are having company and then it becomes -1/10. I’ve done more cleaning because of other people than I have myself. (Speaking in a broader sense here, obviously the important things get cleaned when need be, but it’s not like we have a schedule for baseboards and celing fans…but they will be clean before the parents show up.)

Hey now, we assembly lots of things in NC very well. I’d wager more of a cost saving redesign vs poor workmanship. If it leaks or the door fell off, well maybe we built that one on Monday morning after having too much white lightening over the weekend. But if it just sucks as cleaning, that’s design.

I’ve never owned much more than a builder basic dishwasher, so I do a bit of prewashing. Now, maybe a nice one will get the really stuck on food off, but short of industrial, I’m not sure a home unit can remove egg. If I leave egg residue on my plates the whole wash loads tend to take on this weird musty odor. Another rinse cycle usually fixes it, but still unpleasant. I have forgotten the soap before and most of the time you can’t tell unless it is on something that has baked on residue. I find citric acid does a good job of cleaning the inside of the washer, but YMMV.

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If you have the luxury to build a kitchen, I recommend that you buy the absolute top of the line dishwasher (a Miele for me) and spend whatever is left in your budget on the rest of the kitchen. Unless a dishwasher can perfectly wash and dry every single item every single time, with no pre-washing, it has no place in my kitchen.

-jeff

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Get a portable dishwasher. Often available used in perfectly fine and functional condition.

I got one for $60. It’s on wheels - I hook it up, fill it, and it does the dishes. It changed my life.

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Yup. I have a countertop one I stuck on a wheeled island.

Now I am more likely to do the dishes before I run out of dishes.

I don’t know if it’s actually more efficient, but it’s effective for me.

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In our house, it all hinges on whose week it is too cook. If it’s your week to cook, then you also take the kids to school in the morning while the other person does (most of) the shipping. The other person also picks the kids up so that the week’s cook can work up to five without interruption. If you didn’t cook, then you clean up supper and put any leftovers away. And run the dishwasher. Also, if it’s your week to cook then you plan the meals and do the grocery trip. For the last few months both of us have been making a real effort to clean the kitchen as we cook, and that is really nice.

On Monday and Tuesday, I unload the dishwasher first thing in the morning and she makes lunches. On Wednesday and Thursday, the tasks are reversed. On Friday we just hope for the best.

There are other connected tasks, as well. It’s evolved into a pretty elaborate system, but it seems to work really well as everyone know what’s expected of them.

On the other hand, before I started writing this I asked my wife which task is the most problematic in our relationship. She said dishes.

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Learning to wash dishes was definitely a process. It wasn’t until I spent a lot of time without a dishwasher, that I began to appreciate the zen of it all. And then once it became a habit, I noticed myself getting all the more impatient with those who seem unable to bring themselves to clean proactively.

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This… When I am cooking oh gotta wait 5 minutes before flipping over, hmm can clean up the veggie dregs and wash off the cutting board. Put stuff in to bake for 20 minutes and I am on a clean up tear. Rinse out prep bowls and put in the washer, or just clean it depending, clean up the counters, etc. It isn’t hard and you are just waiting around anyway. Also it makes after dinner clean up so much easier.

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It is truly amazing what you learn about hoomans when you share a flat with people you aren’t related or romantically involved with, right?

Like, how the fuck someone manages to collect more than 20 cups, many of them with at least a sip of coffee (and sometimes more than half full - or was it half empty?) in a 16m² room over a prolonged time and then start complaining every time he made coffee that there were no cups left in the cupboard, and being annoyed to have to use one of those in the sink, with a scornful comment on the lips about people not doing their own dishes…

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Have you ever been on those intrrwebz peeps keep talking 'bout? Ever saw the term “life hack” mentioned there?

One of them being “class”, the other “other people”?

This is why I do most of the laundry at our house.

Right there with you. Except the top rack and bottom rack in the dishwasher invariably fill up at different rates.
“We’re out of plates and forks.”
“Too bad, we haven’t filled up the top with cups yet.”

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I remember amusing a co-worker with something I did that was (I think) similar. One morning she noticed I was wearing some nicer slacks. She complimented me on my choice and asked what was the occasion. Quite simply, I’d run out of clean trousers and had moved on to dress pants. (Like I said earlier, I’ll do the laundry now, but we have our own machines – back then I’d put off having to spend hours at the always-full laundromat). She thought that was the funniest & most ridiculous thing she’d heard, putting on good clothes just to avoid doing the laundry.

And yes I’ll regularly use tablespoons or knives in place of teaspoons, etc.

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If i ever buy a house there’s two definite things i’m putting in: A urinal, and a commercial style sink with a high pressure wand. No need for a dishwasher if you can blast all the crud off

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