Donald Trump's disapproval rating now at 54%, Gallup reports

If you believe that your (made-up) religion gives you the right to deprive everyone else of their right over their own body, then yes, I would call you a fascist. It’s a belief in a collusion between “a pet thing you like” and “government” in a way that I call “fascistic,” because it deprives others of liberty, for your own benefit.

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Is there a significant difference between an advocate of fascism and someone who is willing to look the other way on fascism for their own ends? Maybe the later is worse, because they cynically accept it despite knowing better. At least an advocate of fascism actually believes they are doing the right thing.

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You are right on that I suppose. But I can see that assuming “not the worst” of people I have known for a decade is a fault, not something to be proud off. I don’t want to argue. Have a good night.

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I’m really sorry I seem to have insulted someone you are close to, because I said they are a de facto fascist. shrug smooch Note I said the GOP’s supporters though in my original post, which does not at all mean the same thing as “every last Trump voter.” I’ll just quote my post verbatim:

“The GOP via the Tea Party (or perhaps further back, to the Bill Clinton Presidency) evolved into a literally fascist-minded organization. Their supporters are, de facto, fascists.”

Again, you are free to interpret, to paraphrase, “the GOP’s supporters” as “every Trump voter” if you wish, but it really wasn’t my intention or point. I’ll let “the public” decide – we’re all here to offer our own thoughts and opinions, and I never said you had to agree with me. Again to quote my post:

“I’m kind of done making excuses for them.”

I don’t see how that equates to “EVERYONE ON BOINGBOING MUST ALSO DO SO OR I’M GOING TO HAVE A COW!”

This has nothing to do with what I said, or what you said.

You originally made this claim:

I was pointing out that this claim is false; Trump was not voted for by 42% of the American people. Not even close. You only get a number remotely that high if you exclude everyone who was eligible to vote but didn’t. But those people excluded from the voting percentages are included in the approval poll percentages.

This means that if everybody who actually voted for Trump said they approved of his actions, and everybody else said that they disapproved, then Trump’s approval rating would be in the mid-20s (back-of-the-napkin math suggests 26%, but I might have that slightly wrong). That’s the approval rate at which any further drops would require the people who voted for him to stop supporting him.

You’re also ignoring the simple fact that we actually have seen Trump’s approval rating drop. We don’t need to go to other statistics and play pretend to gauge whether his support is changing over time; we can just look at what’s happened to his approval rate. It was 46% upon taking office, and it’s 42% now. That’s nearly a 10% drop in two and a half weeks. Almost 10% of people who said they approved of his actions when he took office have changed their mind during the last two and a half weeks. Does that sound like “basically unchanged” to you?

[edit: removed a sarcastic paragraph; in retrospect, I don’t like how it changed the tone of this comment]

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Impeaching is the easy part. Clinton was impeached. Majority vote in the house, which is elected every two years.

Convicting to remove from office takes 2/3 of the Senate. Which means the reddest 1/3 of the Senate has to agree to do it and only 1/3 of them are elected every two years.

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The only way this turns around is a solid D majority in the house in 2 years, and a serious improvement for D’s at the state and local level.

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So we have to fall back on relying on actuarial tables to solve this?

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No, you have to figure out how to force the Dems to offer real solutions to the half of the country that don’t vote.

In doing so, you’re likely to face epic resistance from establishment Dems who would prefer to continue corporate plutocracy, thinking they can win if they just add a dash of Trumpism.

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They will just blame the liberals and the media for their chosen one’s failure, same as always.

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Are they also proposing to do away with elections, because otherwise this seems like a really bad career move.[quote=“JonS, post:94, topic:94566, full:true”]
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Top reasons I’m seeing there are cabinet full of billionaires, cutting funding to animal shelters (I didn’t know anything about this), refusing to say US is better than Russia, and being crazy/embarrassing.

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…and China, and - weirdly - Poland, and…

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About the same as Putin’s, then?

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Really just having regard to his own published statements any teacher who voted for Trump should be disqualified from the job.

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You’d think so

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From talking to some of them, I’m convinced they would blame Obama for the fire. Trump’ would be “trying to put out the fire”.

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Or vice versa for charter schools.

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