So what country is going to become the Mycogen Sector of Earth?
Seems like yeast is set to have a really good year!
Makes me think of the restaurant scene in Brazil - if I wasnât at work I would search up a clip.
Fake grape doesnât surprise me, though it is an interesting task/execution. Alcohol esters donât sound like a stretch, considering plenty of beers are created with estery flavor profiles.
That was my first thought.
Hopefully without the freaky hairlessness, although we could probably do with a Renegade of our ownâŚ
Edit: realized we have one on the BBS. Paging @daneel⌠
Ok, so ânatural flavorsâ now = âartificial flavors.â Super.
Nothing has changed really. If you started with corn, and processed it with a dozen toxic chemicals to make it taste like avocado then you could call it âNatural Flavorâ since it was a plant to start with.
Long before the term âArtificial Flavorâ existed we had been using chemicals to extract and process flavors found in plants and animals. Often times to produce flavors that didnât really exist previously.
There is nothing in the names âNatural Flavorâ vs âArtificial Flavorâ that tells anyone anything important. For any given flavor compound that can be produced from a ânaturalâ process or an âartificialâ process there is no telling which one has worse environmental impacts, which produces more toxic byproducts, and which results in a safer final compound with fewer contaminants.
Just eat unprocessed whole foods.
Any time you buy packaged goods, youâre going to get varying levels of crap. Stop complaining and take control over your diet if you actually care.
So letâs say that they manage to make chemicals that simulate the taste and aroma of bacon and use that to make soy bacon or veggie bacon taste and smell almost indistinguishable from the real thing. According to the nutritional label on that product, 2 strips of that particular brand of veggie bacon have 60 calories and 4.5 grams of fat.
Searching Google for âbacon nutrition factsâ gives a nutritional array of 43 calories and 3.3 grams of fat ⌠for ONE slice. As long as the amount of that chemical they use adds less than 26 calories and 2.1 grams of fat to the âI Canât Believe Itâs Not Baconâ the artificial stuff will be healthier (at least according to those two criteria) than the real stuff.
Humanity has been eating âgenetically modifiedâ products for a long time now. In the past it was mostly indirectly modified (through selecting breeding, like bananas or chicken) trial-and-error. Now we can make targeted changes.
Yeast are the future of morphine, too, from what I hear.
Being a beer drinker, and someone who used to love âblue raspberryâ sodas, I have a hard time thinking yeast waste is any worse that beaver butt gland juiceâŚ
Edit to more clearly attribute quote to wikipedia.
How does funny smelling yeast lead to that? How possibly?
As though selective breeding and transgenic modification are the same?
Is it that you think weâre stupid? Or is your worldview actually that misinformed?
Itâs clear that Steve does see the difference: selective breeding relies on random mutation, transgenic manipulation is targeted. I remember a passage in /The Whole Earth Discipline/ that claimed that there hasnât been a recorded case of a food allergy caused by a genetic modified crop, but food allergies often result from new ânaturalâ crops (kiwi fruit was the example given). Iâm not sure how far I would trust that claim, and Iâm not in a position to do the research required to verify it, but it doesnât instantly trip my bullshit detectors either.
Incidentally, was I the only one who read this story and thought, âcool, Iâm living in the futureâ?
On a related note, I would love a version of organic labelling that allowed for GM (perhaps also tracking the kinds of modifications made, rather than lumping them all together).
People have been working on a cheaper source of vanillin for many decades, in fact itâs been something of a Holy Grail for food scientists. If someone is upset that people are working on this, well that bus left the station about 30 years ago.
Iâm looking forward to yeast synthesized grape flavored morphine
If you believe there is a vast difference between the two, yes. Transgenic modification is a natural process.
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No, theyâre not. There are ethical and safety considerations that need to be taken into account, but given how much more carefully genetic manipulation in a laboratory can be controlled than ânaturalâ reproduction and how âlow-levelâ an organism yeast is, as long as we take the time to develop proper procedures and testing of these âspicesâ and the yeasts that generate them I suspect theyâll be safe by the time they become available on the market, in restaurants and on store shelves.
The abuse department is down the hall and around the corner to the left. This is the civilized discussion department. The argument department is next door, if you want to get a little uncivilized.
Anyone have the proper URL? as the post link is a 404âŚ
