And that will last forever?
Isn’t the goal to prevent that? For Ukraine and for Europe?
And next year. And during a lengthy occupation. A potential 10-20 year war US and European militaries are predicting. For much needed funds to re-build in an aftermath?
To prevent Russia from doing it again. Or elsewhere?
Part of the issue here is a different perspective on what EU membership means.
We’ve got ample voices from Eastern European countries right now talking about how they view pursuing EU membership as the pathway to reform. And a necessary one. Especially with regards to how corruption and failure to reform emanate from Russia. Through involvement in their politics, manipulation of their media. And in this case an actual invasion.
Fuck, the Finns as members of the EU. Are all over talking about this with regards to their famous “neutrality” between NATO and Russia. Describing it not as a policy decision, but how they were deprived of the right to make that policy decision by Russian involvement in their politics. And given how NATO compliant their military is, it does beg the question of how “neutral” they actually ever were.
On the other end Western European countries often view EU membership as the end result of reform. Or in the crass framing a reward, which goes hand in hand with the ugly looking through line of who “deserves” EU membership.
It reminds me far too much of dumb ass takes I’ve heard from European family about Eastern European countries that are already in the EU. Especially Poland. Poland isn’t really in Europe. They’re not really a member, they didn’t deserve it, it shouldn’t have happened. They just joined to take our jobs and ruin our sausages.
Probably. But that is an escalation. Like you said.
Escalation is already happening, and some what of a forgone conclusion. But the project seems to be to mitigate and control that.
There will be a point where that’s necessary or at least a very good idea. Because it’s the UN, it probably won’t happen till after that moment has passed. I’d almost expect Russia to withdraw before they get to it.
Which in regards to the EU. The EU can act faster, and more capably on this sort of thing. And they have.
If instead of saying flat no, they haven’t earned it or whatever. You look at it from the Ukrainian perspective. And consider what the EU can do through or around that process to mitigate or control that escalation. As well that long term idea of reforming, stabilizing and developing Ukraine. Which is very much in the EU’s interest at this point.
Well maybe it doesn’t look like the hill the die on right now.
