Interestingly we never got a Sopranos, Oz, The Wire, True Blood, Sex in the City spin offs…why would this be any different for them?
HBO is really good at finding the NEXT one of those. They generally have had 2 half hour series and one main drama running at one time. And are not afraid to try new things and see what sticks.
That seems to be the main issue with art in general. I guess that’s why there are creative people who present their work and refuse to provide any interpretation or explanation - because people want to put their own spin on it. Writing fictional worlds must be particularly difficult, so I’m always interested in critiques of characterization. In GOT, it sounds like some of the actors weren’t on board with the plot of the finale, either.
If you are under the impression that I am whining about missing realism, then you got me very wrong.
I’ll try to break it down, again.
The producers gave us very few scenes and a very short time to come to term with their idea that Dany was a baddie all along and explained everything after the fact by literally spelling it out. Tyrion said it. Plus, we got different aesthetics.
Visual and acoustics hints given for Daenarys Stormborn of House Targaryan, Queen of the Whatevs, turning to The Mad Queen were few, and a story was never properly told.
Listen to Bran, and to Tyrion, if you want: people need stories, stories they remember and stories they live for.
I don’t even want to continue to sympathise with Danny as a supervillain (which could be done - hey, even Cersei gets some audience sympathies in the end!), but I want a story to be told. I was expecting immersive entertainment up to a certain point, but the last three episodes made it really, really hard not to facepalm any second moment and ask myself if I could have written a better script. (I could not, but that’s not the point.)
I really hope there are no spin-offs.
As to why I consider it a possibility here and didn’t when those other shows ended is the fantasy element. I watched the Sporano’s, for example, to experience Toni’s crazy life. if you took any of the secondary cast and gave them a spin-off it would either be more of the same thing or some deal where they move to LA and we go with the fish out of water trope. Either way it is not very compelling as there is not much to tell that we haven’t seen in the original series.
But with a fantasy show, how things were in the past before magic started to fade could be a wildly different experience. How things are west of Westeros could be wildly different.
Emphasis on “could be” as it could also be more of the same and not readily add anything to the original story already told. Having a fantasy element is no guarantee of freshness but does have the promise.
Agreed. Re watched the finale last night and came away questioning whether Jon is a hero or a villain. I mean after listening to the lords mock Sam’s suggestion of Democracy. I thought who really won here? The 1 percent. Then I thought about it did we ever see anything from anyone’s point of view who wasn’t highborn? Sure Dany might have been brutal but she seemed set on actually immanentizing the eschaton. Jon? he just made sure the people who were in power pretty much stayed in power. The peasants and small folk were roundly murdered/killed disregarded. Does it matter than thousands more would die as Dany remade the world? They’re going to be exploited and die regardless.
I just reread the section. Bran suggests he is a Wildling, but is corrected by Ned. It somewhat clearly is this guy:
What did I miss?
I wouldn’t mind seeing Dunk and Egg brought to the screen.
I think to many people thought the story we were shown was 3rd person omniscient when it was actually more (shifting) 1st person unreliable.
He did roughly the same kind of thing as Alliser Thorne, for the same reasons (as well as the same thing Jaime Lannister did). It’s funny to see how similar they are, but people took different sides on it, if they liked the character or not.
Best quote I have read from a GoT actor was Peter Dinklage comparing the razing of King’s Landing to the bombing of Hiroshima.
So at first I thought, maybe. Motivations were different. But were they really? Then I thought about the firebombings of Hamburg, Tokyo, Dresden, Pyongyang. The Mai lai massacre. And it hit me:
Danerys is Us. Danerys is America.
It’s not a mystery. I mistakenly called him a Wildling at first, but that was because I was remembering the first page bit, where Robb says he’s a wildling, and not the Ned correction.
I have now been corrected more often than Robb and Bran.
And yet, Ned killed a guy for leaving border patrol in peace-time, and killed his daughter’s wolf to please his boss.
I never did anything as bad as that.
The difference there being that we didn’t bomb Hiroshima after the armistice was declared. Nor did we firebomb Hamburg, Tokyo, and so on after the fighting was over just to make a point. What Dany did was an out and out warcrime, in a story that is otherwise pretty lenient on people’s conduct in war.
But there’s no source material to adapt. Surely you don’t want Dave and Dan to wing it again 
If you feel unconflicted about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, then you probably shouldn’t hold forth about war crimes.
I don’t want a spin off. Especially with D&D ad libing it.
The west could be made of candy…or…it’s a time portal to 1980s NYC…or…it’s a land where people have to sing everything…or…up is down, down is up!..or…there are copies of everyone, but the morally neutral people are morally neutral in the opposite direction, with moustaches…
If the narrative on the first page says he’s a Wildling, then the first thing the reader reads about is a Wildling getting executed. Reading, and describing, the text in the order it’s presented is not a mistake.
I’m hoping for a futurama-esque alternate universe where everyone in Westeros has a double which wears a cowboy hat.
Wouldn’t that be [puts on sunglasses] … WesterosWorld?
The history books say we did it all (all of the bombings) to end the war more quickly. But are you so certain it wasn’t also done to make a point? After all, that second nuclear bomb marked the start of our primacy in the world order, which still stands today.
