Gendered objectification

Inside joke; that’s a pet name Ol’ Joe’s fans gave him- part play on his last name, part admission that they just want to eat him up with a spoon…

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Objectification is acceptable for men, because there is no risk, on a physical level
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Disagree; it’s somewhat less common, but still possible for a man to be sexually violated by a woman.

Especially now that Viagra’s a thing.

But anyhoos…

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I think for the most part, straight men aren’t overly worried about being objectified by women, even though it’s certainly possible for women to sexually violate them. I also think that if we asked how they feel about being objectified by gay men, we might get a very different answer.

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What is that from? :thinking:

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David Tennant as Peter Vincent in “Fright Night”. I haven’t seen it, just this picture. :wink:

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Oh hell yeah. Look at all the shower-time fear expressed by athletes. And the dropped- soap jokes!

I never got the shower fear. I think it’s some kind of insecurity? A fear of being looked at a certain way (cuz it can’t be a realistic fear of being like, groped or something).

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[scrolls up] Holy crap, that is him. I didn’t realise when I looked at it on my phone. I just thought, “cool, TV version of a goth dude.”

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Thanks! I’ve never seen him in a campy role. Definitely must watch!

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And that reminds me … gay men are often objectified by straight women and find it unpleasant. I used to have to dance with a gay male friend of mine at clubs, because women would straight up shove themselves between him and his boyfriend.

If I can use my Sense8 example yet again … Daniela’s use of Lito and Hernando for her own sexual gratification (she takes photos of them having sex and uses them as masturbation fodder) results in Lito being outed against his will.

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Oh, of course not.

When you are part of the majority which makes the rules and sets the tone, you never have to worry about being on the receiving end of any behavior.

Right after my rebuttal to Jeff, I thought of an apt example of male objectification that could indeed pose a threat to a man’s safety, though it’s not very common-place;

Boy bands, and how their female fans go nuts over them. Since Im old school I’ll provide an old school example;

I remember seeing footage of teenage girls mobbing the Jackson 5, and being disturbed at how frenzied those fangirls seemed…

Of course, now I can’t find the actual clip I’m talking about, but this will do for the time being;

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Oh you both need to check it out and let me know what you think.

For once I liked the remake better than the original, and I think a lot of it is due to Tennant.

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As someone who has been same-sex molested, stalked, and slandered (all separate incidents), I would give some credence to the idea that even when gay, some guys are still bros and creeps.

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‘Predatory dickwad’ comes in every variety; it doesn’t discriminate.

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Right. The fear I’m talking about is the one of anyone gay.

I’m sorry to hear that, and I hope you’ve found good ways to cope.

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I don’t know for sure if what I’m doing is right, but at least there’s no substance abuse or physical self-harm.

One thing I learned after a long time is to speak up/talk about it. I’m not a dad or a person in any position of authority, but I try to pass on the wisdom to young people as often as possible. Silence and shame are weapons used against you.

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I caught that right after I had posted and you’re right; once it becomes a matter of being objectified by other men, then it becomes a whole different ball of wax.

Perfect example which also serves as segue to post drag race gifs;

This season, one of the queens told a story about being a gay male on the cheer-leading squad in HS;

She said that after one practice he was talking with the other girls on the squad, and someone asked if he thought one of the popular basketball players was cute. Not suspecting anything, Peppermint replied she thought he was 'so fine!"

Long story short, word got back to the basketball player in question; and the next day, Peppermint got jumped by the basketball team.

I saw plenty of gay-bashing in school of the few LGBTQ students in my day but hearing his recollection was still jarring because not much has changed, sadly.

This is Peppermint btw:

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That’s the thing, we wouldn’t do this. I’ve never met a woman who hasn’t at one point needed one and asked a friend, “Shit. Do you have a tampon?”

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Right! That’s Girl Code ™.

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Hell, I’ve made friends that way.

*lolz

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Haha! One of my best friends at university was a vegan lesbian (I’m omnivore, and she was the first dyed-in-the-wool lesbian I’d ever met), and we became friends because of my t-shirt.*

*A pentagram with “fuckin’ evil” in comic sans

I wonder what Man-Jello’s modeling fee is? Perhaps you could use a life-sized painting for the boudoir?

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My thoughts on objectification have been truly expanded through this thread and @nimelennar inadvertent pointing me to Nussbaum’s definition. One of the most pervasive forms is the sexualized objectification of women, but by no means is that all it is.

Also, because seriously, I love a (relatively reasonable, no crazy six packs) man in a kilt and Mr. Jilly still won’t wear one:

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You. Monster!

You do know that I’m an artist too, right?

*lolz

And yes, darling; I’d pay to have him pose for me, any day…

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