You mean a Star Wars Trash Compactor?
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Iāve been locked in overnight at my retail job and if I had to I could get out (I mean what if the place was on fire!). Yeah doors locked from the outside but from inside you could just push them open setting off the alarm. Maybe no jury would sympathize with a robber but from a technical standpoint this may very well be some sort of deathtrap violation.
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Those doors with crash bars are no joke, they save lives.
The new grocery store up the road has a must-remain-open fire door at the far end of the store. They kept locking it, so people couldnāt get out that way and I complained.
Well it kept on happening, so I called the local FD. For some reason, I havenāt found that door locked since.
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There is rain or something like it falling in front of the camera - the space heās trapped in doesnāt seem to have a roof.
Iād wager thatās not a room so much as a tiny backyard. Technically, heās probably not even in a building, so heās locked himself out rather than being locked in.
Wich might mean that fire codes donāt apply. Surely the door leading outside is allowed to be a locked one-way door, even if the āoutsideā in this case is just a space between spaces.
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I thought the question was going to be how we can macgyver a way out of that room given whatās available. Although we donāt know what that adjacent room contains.
That would be the going topic if there had been more info about the environs.
Personally, I want to know what he found when he climbed up on that crash bar on the far door. Up, dammit! Look up!
I dunno. A small quantity of some kind of azide would have helped considerably, but azides tend not to travel well. You could page a certain user with a blue horse as his avatar if you really want to get deep.
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Not really, unless you count dubious interpretations of the Human Rights Act becoming case law.
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I canāt tell if youāre playing devilās advocate, or actually think the owner was morally in the wrong.
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Heās not morally in the wrong but he probably is legally in the wrong. False imprisonment, because what if there had been a fire? Of course, charges are at the DAās discretion.
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Itās not kidnapping. If they guy had an ounce of sense, he could very easily have avoided the whole situation by propping the door.
The fucking Watergate burglars were smarter than him. He got what was coming to him. Thereās such a thing as a citizenās arrest. If itās not kidnapping to perform a citizenās arrest, why would this be illegal?
California penal code Section 837 is relevant to citizenās arrest:
837. A private person may arrest another:
- For a public offense committed or attempted in his/her presence.
- When the person arrested has committed a felony, although not in his presence.
- When a felony has been in fact committed, and he or she has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested to have committed it.
I think this situation fits the bill for a citizenās arrest. The guy was breaking and entering. He comitted a felony, there is reasonable cause to suspect that they were there to burgle the place, therefore a citizenās arrest is allowed. This doesnāt seem really any different. They even left out water. The guy was in basically no risk other than the risk he put himself in.
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Heād probably say something like:
āThereās a hosebib right there. And a functional light switch, probably held together with screws. And a cellphone. And several buckets. He should have filled one bucket with water, gotten the light switch open, held the wires in the water to electrolyze the water with an inverted bucket over the top, then brought the bucket full of HHO to the door, rupture his phone battery so it would start overheating, place it under the inverted bucket and run away from the resulting hydrogen-oxygen explosion.ā
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Nailed it!
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Thatās not rain; itās the dust he is kicking up in his frustration.
Better call Saul!
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ā¦ so how did he succeed in opening that one door? That part of the film is missing. Was it perseverance or leverage?
Iām conflicted too, a little. Not much. Seeing a human trapped like that reminds me of the time I used a glue trap to catch a mouse. I came home days later to fins a just barely alive creature that had obviously gone through something a little like this. (Never again, itās instant kill traps from then on for me, and my mice!)
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Just in case you ever find yourself with a mouse in a glue trap again: I websearched and found that putting vegetable oil on the mouse allows it to free itself. Came in mighty handy after I trapped a mouse and wanted to let it go. Worked like a charm, mouse was fine (though it had only been in the trap for a few minutes).
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Personally, Iām aā¦ well I was going to say fan, but really what I mean is, I prefer the electric mousetraps that cook them in about a second. If they touch it they will be dead before they even know whatās happening. Less chance of torture than glue traps, less chance of screwups like the spring traps (if you donāt bait a spring trap correctly, youāll end up with either an ineffective trap, or a dead mouse that suffocated from its nose being caught, instead of its neck being broken.)
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Bugs flying around the cameraās infrared lights.
Given the way castle laws are written around here, I would say he got off lucky. An alternative is getting blown away on sight. Kidnapping charges seem pretty unlikely to stick given the B&E going on. Especially because the only way to get trapped is to break in.
If you want to really take this up a notch you could put an ill tempered rottweiler in the second room he kicks open. Or maybe one of those sentry turrets from Aliens.
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