Google Glass chief "amazed" by privacy issues that helped kill his project

Do people actually think sex offenders get off filming kids at parks? Hysterical.

The misconception that anyone wearing one could start filming all face to face interactions at any moment? Wait…that’s actually true.

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Why don’t you take your camera phone, go to a park, and start filming children playing? You can report back to us how it works out for you. :smile:

You’ll be lucky if it is just an annoyed parent confronting you. More likely, you’ll see a cop car pull up 15 minutes later (unless you’re here in Oakland, where it might take an hour if they bother).

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The misconception that it would be possible to do so any more covertly than with any number of other recording devices.

So you wear your smartphone on your forehead at all times?

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The reasons why it’s not possible to be all that covert with Glass, and other devices that are far easier to be covert with, have already been mentioned by several people several times in this thread.

If you think it’s incorrect, I suggest you actually respond to all of that, rather than talking about smartphones on foreheads. But I suspect you’d prefer to stick to misconceptions and petty namecalling.

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I’m pretty sure I didn’t go there (namecalling) but you seem to be verging on it. If you don’t want to be intellectually honest and descent to that level, sure. I think we’re done though.

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“glassholes”

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The other day I saw a swarm of tourists on some.
Yesterday afternoon I rode past a Segway store downtown.
A day or two before I saw a news item about an all-terrain wheelchair built around that concept, and some guy test-driving it who visited some park-on-a-hillside first time after a cycling accident.

So I think comparison with a Segway is a good one.

It is an actual one, albeit a relatively feeble one; but isn’t it quite plausible that it is exactly that intense perception that makes it so repugnant?

The human social vocabulary actually has a rich collection of low-damage, high-impact social gestures that are crafted and used precisely to be perceived: it’s why we insult people even when just throwing a rock at them would do more damage; that sort of thing. A great deal of time, thought, care, and concern goes into this social gesticulation.

In the case of ‘glass’, it is true that it’s too small to be a particularly high quality recording system and too visible to be a good clandestine one. What it is, though, is an egregiously visible one. Yes, if my actual objective were ‘obtain clandestine footage of your face’, I’d be well served by different hardware; but glass perfectly handles ‘shove my camera in your face, and make it very clear that I’m going to just shove my camera in your face, for our entire interaction, because my desire to do so is what counts here’.

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I back this, and I back this a lot.

Here is some disassembly I did of a fairly-old-by-now camera pen.
http://shaddack.twibright.com/projects/reveng_spypen/
Note the main limiting factor of operating time is the battery. Which is the easiest thing to upgrade. Changing form factor from a pen to anything else the board fits into is a matter of crude mechanical engineering and some modelmaking-grade quality time with a Dremel.

Then there are those more modern microcams, Higher resolution, more efficient codecs, higher power efficiency, and much smaller boards. I have one for a microdrone that I should look into and take photos of and test performance of.

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Referencing the term being used in public in a number of places is not the same as engaging in namecalling here. Did this term offend you and you took it personally because you love your Google Glass and wear it everywhere?

“The revolt against Google ‘Glassholes’”

“Glassholes banned from SF bars”

I can find more if you’d like. It is a common enough term when discussing Glass.

Robert Scoble in the shower (yes, this is real):

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Many other common terms applied to different minorities are generally found objectionable.

Why is this not a name calling? Does common use, and accordance to your personal priorities, exempt it? If so, why?

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HA ha ha.

Are you, with a straight face, trying to compare rich idiots who pay $1500 a pop for an alpha product with actually oppressed minorities? Really?

Yes, rich white tech nerds are an oppressed minority. Hell, you’re oppressing me right now since I’m a white dude who works in Silicon Valley as an engineer. Quit oppressing me!

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Oh, come now. Who doesn’t want to be intellectually honest? You didn’t just “reference” it, you used it specifically to mean those people:

And I didn’t say you were namecalling me.

And you’re seriously going to use an urban dictionary definition to try to claim that using it doesn’t constitute namecalling? :joy:

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Thank you. Just don’t tell venture capitalist John Doerr.

Where I come from, people bitching about “namecalling” in a thread is about namecalling between participants, not that they referenced a mean name applied to other folks. No one called you a name. So, yeah.

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There we go again. Yeah, all you were doing was “referencing” it. :innocent:

Guess which one of those options you took by having this whole little sidetrack.

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Where I come from, the definition is not so restrictive. What word/phrase is used, in your world, for such name-calling of third parties?

Edit: Something for your enlightment. Notice the missing exception of third-party references.

Being a nerd is not a walk through a rose garden. Strings are attached and not all are null-terminated.

Besides, somebody has to do the alpha-testing. It’s not a peachy job and not all of it can be done in the labs. A bit of leeway could be prudent - tomorrow you will use the tech too. Keep in mind what many people said yesterday about camera phones, the day before about cellphones, and the days before about other technologies that are omnipresent today.

We need more new technologies. And we need more alpha-testers.

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Try being the same nerd but make the person female, black, or gay. It gets a hell of a lot harder.

We had this discussion a few weeks ago in another thread. I know you feel personally put upon by privilege conversations, being Eastern European and leading a life of hardship. So we can just reference the other thread and call this done.

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