Well, some of them are very concerned about preserving their ability to commit fraud.
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Yeah, I got shades of the Atlas shrugged/Lord of the rings joke
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
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Only the finest, most luxurious votes!
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I can recognize that from ancient times, where even in most ‘democratic’ cities there was a property qualification to vote. The argument goes that someone with a farm or a house or so on has some interest in the success of the state, whereas someone without could simply take their cloak and go someplace else and be no worse off. I don’t agree but there’s some logic to it.
That logic is plainly reversed today. Poor people absolutely need the state and its services for their well-being, whereas the ultra-rich tend to have things in offshore accounts and are ready to jump ship at a moment’s notice. If anyone should be denied the vote for not having a stake in decent society, it’s them.
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In the end the word is being taken out of context by anyone claiming that it happened. Saying that a vote is fraudulent is like saying that “I don’t think you should be able to vote or vote in that way”. This is the way it is being used rather than in the technical “That vote was cast illegally”. The problem is that this is internally consistent usage and well understood by those who are using it in that way.
It is also why they are on such a different page from everyone else - they aren’t even speaking the same language.
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many of us in the forum started insisting that that member be banned but the founder of the blog considered it important for us to hear that guys voice because he felt it was going to become a more common rhetorical style as the years went by.
it did but we were vocal in our criticism of his positions.
indeed.
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I see someone else has just re-discovered they’re a deficit hawk after staying quiet for the last four years. Odd how that happens whenever the Dems get power.
A Fraud Guarantee, as it were.
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At the same time, repugs gut schools to ensure ignorance. It’s ironic because that’s how they get votes.
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Deficit hawk? I am freaking socialist (hint: Zapata in the avatar). See nick_warr disambiguation, to Thrull1, of my original post.
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See, part of the problem here is that you said that instead of just explaining “I was being facetious” or “just kidding”. I’d expect clearer language from a Man of the People™ such as yourself.
Perhaps you’re unfamiliar with Poe’s Law, but there have been people here (complete with avatars and handles that mask their true ideology) who seriously make that claim. And even people who are well-known and frequent posters here aren’t averse to tossing in an “/s” tag now and then, because ugly as it is it can avoid de-rails like this one.
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Scratch a republican, find a monarchist/neo-feudalist.
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Whereas the voters he really wants to be the only ones allowed to vote are those who can be described with one less n in the word. You know, uniformed voters.
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Kavanagh went on to add, “Maybe we could instill some sort of … literacy test, or something. Or maybe a tax you pay at the polls!”
These effing guys. Can’t CNN just ask them point blank, “Why are your ideas so unpopular that you have no confidence at all that a majority of voters will support them? Why are you so afraid to test your political views in front of the entire marketplace of voters?”
“What does vote quality have to do with fraud, John? Can you make up your mind about why you want to limit voting access?”
“If the quality of votes matter, why didn’t our Founding Fathers put anything about it in the Constitution? Why do we have a 14th Amendment guaranteeing equal rights under the law? Is there an exception for the right to vote? Did you want to let the Supreme Court know about your new finding since that’s been settled law for 57 years?”
“Why are you so afraid, John?”
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It’s totally on brand for the GOP though. I’ve been told by family that “only land owners should be able to vote”. Mind you I own land and they don’t. It’s mind boggling.
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Screw John Kavanaugh and the racist horse he rode in on.
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I’m not even done
“Why do you support taxation without representation, John?”
“Why are you supporting dictatorships, John? One group of people makes the laws, and another group of people have to live by them, we call that North Korea.”
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Land already does get to vote! The Senate is 50-50, but the Democratic Senators represent 41 million more voters - and if you “flipped” every county in America that voted against their Senators you’d be looking at closer to 56 million more voters on the Democratic side.
The insane fact that the entire population of Alaska, Northa Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming (~3.6 million) represent 10% of the Senate, while the 57% of the top 10 counties in Texas (~6.7 million) who voted blue in 2020 have zero is proof: land has a lot of voting power in America.
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All votes are equal, but some votes are more equal than others.
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