Griping about moderation, bias, et cetera

Hey, hey, nobody’s making you give electric shocks to those people, you were already doing that when we got here.

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we’re teaching them to scream better

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Just to cosign:

WTF with the interface?

I don’t mind necessary upgrades now and then, but Discourse is on some Microsoft Vista level bullshit right now; half the useful features are missing, and the ones that are there are in a horrible counterintuitive configuration.

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Now when I compose a post, I see nothing in the preview window.

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According to the Cube Rule of Food, a hot dog generally falls under the umbrella of “Taco.”

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I see it’s no longer possible to change the notification status of a PM

( i.e. “watching,” “tracking,” “normal,” or “muted” )

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This sounds odd to me, I am not aware of this change. Notification status changes should certainly be on PMs.

Yikes… you know… once in a while you got to break a few eggs.

The thing is called “sidebar”, you can make it go away (or appear) by clicking the hamburger at the top left.

The concept behind it is that it gives users more power around the way they get to consume sites.

Big topic discussing this change is at:

One of the weaknesses of the new paradigm is that it is “less useful” when a site only has a handful of categories and you don’t need to section it up into many different pieces that are just for you.

BBS only has 7 categories and zero tags. So this power is a bit more hidden.

If we had more structure here (eg: tags for politics, economics, funny, etc.) then maybe it would be a lot more compelling, you would add the sections of BBS that you care the most about into sidebar and have an easy way to get to it. It certainly makes it easier to get to PMs which I guess is a bonus for you.

For those who dislike sidebar you can just click the burger and make it go away.

We are still trying to see how sidebar fits into worlds where there is almost no structure, we are already committed to maintaining a mode where the hamburger can just live where it used to live and pop open a hamburger like the old one, for sites like this.

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What about user accessibility to private messages?

Surely that omission wasn’t intentional?

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Can you expand on that, maybe with a redacted screenshot or two?

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Right now the only way to reach our private messages is by typing in the url manually; there’s no tab, button nor widget, at least not that I can tell.

Also does the new orientation have to be vertical?

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Oh you mean this:

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So… now messages are under the ungainly hamburger thingy that you just said most of us would make vanish and never use?

Because I still dont see messages under mine:

And you already talked about Categories:

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So cereal is soup?

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Yikes, something feels off, I will ask someone to have a look.

That certainly makes sidebar less useful to you, for sure. The whole idea is centralizing the interface.

Heavy users of messages will certainly want it on cause it makes it far easier to get to messages and start them.

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At a minimum just add all the categories there, it is way better than nothing. Plus you will get unread / new counts.

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Thanks, that’s what I have been trying to get across this whole time.

(The ability to archive old messages is also gone.)

Your efforts and hard work are appreciated.

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I am also not seeing messages anywhere on Chrome for Android or Windows 10. Could you try sending me a test message if you have a moment? I want to see if it goes through, and receiving a message might do the trick.

ETA: Nevermind. I have messages now on both systems. Well done!

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Can you try again? Is it there now?

@orenwolf it looks like you disabled PMs for system user. This has an unfortunate side effect that it disables PMs for non staff users (which is clearly not what you intended, since PMs are enabled on BBS for TL1 and up)

I just enabled it again and am tracking internally if there is a clearer way for us to control this.

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Success:

Yep; it’s there now.

Thx!

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