Hell on Earth: how to imprison a person for 1,000 years

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Cryogenic Prison, where we can mentally re-educated them to knit. Then they get out and every restraunt is Tacobell. Damn ā€¦ John Spartin you have been fined ā€¦ credits

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By your argument, wouldnā€™t it be a justifiable sentence to simply amputate these convicts arms above the elbow, and legs above the knee.

It achieves the same results but can already be done today.

Isnā€™t that kind of the point of solitary confinement in the first place? Maximize psychological suffering and distort the appreciation of time passing? The only problem is that long term solitary confinement is already frowned on by decent people as a solution for anything, so a team of researchers suggesting a lifetime of solitary confinement for evil scientists would have more trouble getting paid.

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I honestly donā€™t understand why ā€œunusualā€ punishment is prohibited. As long as it isnā€™t outright cruel, Iā€™d be very interested in seeing judges and prosecutors get creative in how justice is served.

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Ah, but itā€™s a finite crime against an infinite God, so in hell maths, everything you do gets multiplied by infinity.

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When people say that a prison sentence is too light, I generally respond with, ā€œImagine spending X months/years trapped on the top deck of a bus.ā€ Up stairs with societyā€™s bad boys and no way off.

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I think that prison overcrowding is making solitary confinement an unobtainable luxury.

a) itā€™s not about imprisonment, itā€™s not about torture.

b) if she had read some SF she could have found Perry Rhodanā€™s Arkonides, who practice the infinite death penalty. People get torured to death, experience the moment of death, get reanimated, some time to recuperate and then the cycle starts again.

c) To think about this in earnest, I can quote only a German proverb: I canā€™t eat that much as I want to vomit.

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Visitor, ā€œWhatā€™s down this way?ā€

Guide, ā€œUmā€¦ thatā€™s the Disgusting Sadist Departmentā€¦ we donā€™t go down there anymoreā€¦ā€

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Thatā€™s one of those weird sentences thatā€™s actually pithier in German, isnā€™t it? I like it though.

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I wasnā€™t really awake when I translated it.

A better, smoother translation which captures the vernacular character would be ā€œI can not eat as much as I want to puke.ā€

(ā€œIch kann nicht so viel fressen, wie ich kotzen mƶchte.ā€ )

Itā€™s supposedly by the painter Max Liebermann, as an reaction to the Nazi takeover.

Oh, itā€™s even in the English language Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Liebermann

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Iā€™ve had nights that felt like they went on for 1,000 years.

God damned nineties smartshops and their weird products.

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The future of punishment? How about the future of rehabilitation? You know, like a civil and just society.

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I would want no part in a society that would take this much glee inflicting punishment on another human being.

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What about an eternal prison sentence, in other words, a Hell on Earth?

Simulated hells where people are sent for punishment are a major aspect of the plot in the Culture novel Surface Detail

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Heh.

But seriously its basically impossible for ā€œunusualā€ punishments to be impartial and consistent. So its a good idea to prohibit them.

If a judge orders something ā€˜wierdā€™ as punishment there is a very good chance it is either too harsh or too lenient compared with what other convicts got.

BTW I think that the death penalty in most of the US (basically not Texas I think) has become rare enough to qualify as unusual, and therefore unconstitutional for that reason. Further it is clearly inconsistently applied and its application seems strongly related to media attention and so not impartial.

Personally I donā€™t have moral problems with the death penalty, but I am strongly against it for practical reasons which I do not believe could ever be resolved.

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Canā€™t we all just back Doc Savageā€™s Kickstarter thing to surgically alter the brains of bad guys so they stop being bad? I mean, heā€™s perfected the surgery. I think the kickstarter is just to spread the surgical technique around the globe without loading all the costs on him.

Iā€™m extremely gratified to see that, at least here, the reaction to this has been split with 10% complaining that this has all been covered before in science fiction novel X and 90% wondering what the hell is wrong with these people that they donā€™t understand the most basic principles of justice. Would that Congress broke down that way.

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Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan works on this theme as well, with truly horrendous notions of downloading a consciousness into a virtual torture program, over and over again. Yeah, it is horrendous, like I mentioned. For good reason, one should not do this sort of thing. I believe this is the authorā€™s point.