Hidden "anti-crime" mics are proliferating on US public transit, recording riders' conversations


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#2

Hah! And you people laughed at me for talking dirty to the subway!

...while in Oakland, the cops hid mics around bus-shelters near the courthouses to capture audio of defendants and their lawyers discussing their cases.
"Son, see those faces? Remember those faces." "Are they assholes, papa?" "Yes, son, they are assholes."

#3

New Jersey public transit

That’s a scary thought in itself, really.


#4

As of this date, “The Star-Spangled Banner” has been officially replaced as America’s national anthem by the song “Every Breath You Take”, written – appropriately enough – by The Police.

"Every breath you take and every move you make
Every bond you break, every step you take, I’ll be watching you
Every single day and every word you say
Every game you play, every night you stay, I’ll be watching you."


#5

Plus you can search that stuff now, or have it flag itself under certain circumstances. It’s not just piles of unheard audio.


#6

Great way to encourage the use of public transportation. I’ll drive, thanks.


#7

It was at a bus stop that I got some advice on where to buy drugs (two blocks over) and how to buy drugs. I was told that if I offered an exorbitant amount they’d know I was an undercover cop. I should say “Ten bucks for a bag,” and stand firm.

Free advice to any law enforcement listening in here.


#8

Well, if this is all about putting microphones in government owned areas where crime is likely to happen, then microphones should be put in all elected officials offices… That might actually yield some results we can use.


#9

Shouldn’t they be hiding mics in Banks?


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Well, the conclusion was that that was an rfid tag that fell off of a freight container.


#12

Don’t worry, they are looking at you too.


#13

That’s what ‘they’ say


#14

Surveillance Camera Theater can now do talkies and Audio Plays!!!
http://www.notbored.org/the-scp.html

Not sure how the copyright apples though, what with recording and sharing copies of performances.


#15

You can leave you phone at home if you prefer. It won’t kill you to miss a few tweets.


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transit officials may argue that posting notice that audio surveillance is in use means that anyone who rides those vehicles has consented

Yeah sure. Anyone who doesn’t consent can simply find an alternative means of transport other than public transport.

Demanding consent to onerous surveillance in order to use public infrastructure sounds totally fine to me, I can’t see that going wrong ever.


#17

We have always been at war with EastAsia.


#18

I think you mean:



#19

Oh. Am I one of “them” now?


#20

A disturbing notion of consent is intrinsic to this move.

Letting me know (via notice) that something will happen doesn’t obtain my consent. Waiting for a human on the phone and hear “this call will be recorded for quality and training purposes” - do you consent? Either you stay on the line and “consent”, or you can’t speak with a representative.

This seems eerily close to the “if you don’t like rape, why did you go out after dark” line of reasoning.

People who use transit often don’t have other (reasonable) options available, so this is completely non-consentual.