Apparently it’s a problem in Madrid:
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i deleted my last comment. it was too childish.
Sitting on someone is assault.
And if I sat on a woman who put her bag in the seat next to her in a crowded bus I would be arrested.
And if no one needs to care about my discomfort why should I care about their discomfort ? If it is that much of a pain … get up and find another seat.
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And when the bus is full and you are taking up two seats and will not relinquish, what then?
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stand and endure like a grown human.
So you side with the inconsiderate asshole taking up more space than they deserve.
Got it.
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I don’t know if you read the post, but the “sitter” tried to get the attention of the the guy taking up multiple seats a few times, and he ignored her. So she sat in the seat even though his leg was on it, and he suddenly moved back on to his own seat.
Based on what I’ve read in responses here, it might not be a good idea. But I don’t think what she did was all that outrageous.
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Maybe I’m just for more verbal assertiveness, but I feel like putting a hand or knee on the seat and saying, “Hey fucknuts, get your leg out of my seat” might get the job done without physical confrontation. Maybe that’s more aggressive?
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How shocking that men in this thread are so uptight and dismissive about a woman expressing concerns about safety not
Yes, dudes, It is entirely possible that the woman on the train who did not lift her bag for you does not want your greasy ass sitting next to them out of fear for their safety.
Until you know what it’s like to be followed, harassed, and assaulted on a regular basis, well… Baaah. Sounds like some whining. If a women makes it clear either through body language or the arrangement of their belongings that they don’t want me sitting next to them, I take the hint and stand or find somewhere else to sit.
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While in public, in general?
Absolutely.
I wish it was surprising, but damn near every time there’s a topic that even hints at gender disparity, we suddenly end up with a barrage of apologists and “devil’s advocates” trying to dominate the conversation… not to mention those few who always seem to take every single difference of opinion in any conversation as some sort of personal affront to their core values and beliefs.
Lather, rinse, repeat; the cycle never changes.
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Trial by YouTube. It’s the modern way.
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Maybe it’s because Europeans (in general, of course) are more likely to ride public transportation than Americans?
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It actually is.
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I am so glad that I live in a much smaller community that isn’t so crowded that people think assaulting someone who is using all kinds of “please give me some space, I don’t want to people” body language.
A lot of the photos of this behavior that I have seen has been less affluent black men, who have historically suffered violence for being near white women. I wonder if that informs this trend at all- while they are no longer required to give up their seat because a white woman whims it, they still fear the lynching so they do this to preserve their safety space?
Oh hell no. Hell no.
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Fair point. That’s why quite a few women over here move to another carriage or side of the street when a group of men speaking Arabian or Turkish enter the premises. Including, unless she changed her policy, my sister and her wife.
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Holy leaps to unfounded conclusions, Batman!
I’m a Black woman who rides the subway here in my area constantly; and in my personal experience, general public rudeness is an “Equal Opportunity Employer.”
It doesn’t discriminate, and people of all shapes, sizes and colors are capable of being inconsiderate assholes.
That said, the people that I personally witness engaging in the specific behavior of manspreading mainly tend to be White guys who look like they fit the ‘dudebro’ stereotype.
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I have actually used this method on planes, so I can sleep without spreading.
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