Ian "Debian" Murdock dies after threatening suicide

I don’t trust the police at all, and I think this is a perfectly reasonable stance to take. Given the amount of power they have, versus the lacking oversight, numerous examples of corruption, and over a century of brutalizing dissidents and the less fortunate, I think that working class people in particular should view them as our adversaries–the more privileged, merely as dangerous people not to be crossed.

Generally I think that citing personal experience is bad form, because the only way to counter anecdotal evidence is through character attacks, but sometimes it’s necessary.

I have no experience with San Francisco but Atlanta PD once hospitalized me with a concussion…I was charged with a municipal traffic violation (being in the street). Granted I was disruptive, but peaceful. Sometimes police just punish people, extrajudicially of course, who don’t respond the way they want. I still haven’t found in the law where it says a bloody beating is the punishment for jaywalking. (Bail, replacing my glasses, and a new phone cost over $1,000. Thankfully I had friends who posted bail.)

At other times police attacked my neighbors’ children with pepper spray while they were playing on the playground in their public housing neighborhood. This led to a bunch of children rioting the next time they tried it. How ridiculous, children rioting, but that’s what it descended into.

Someone else I knew was caught with cocaine and when the trial came around it was discovered that the evidence sample was smaller and they were going to get a lighter sentence. They insisted on having had more, accused police of taking the drug for their own purposes, and both that person and an officer went to prison. They got a lengthier sentence for the higher amount but wanted to see the cop go to prison for being crooked. I imagine most people just thank their lucky stars and keep quiet.

92-year-old Katherine Johnston was infamously murdered in her home by police while I was living in Atlanta, in a raid on the wrong house. This led to some convictions after an attempted cover-up (trivia: they handcuffed her corpse after shooting her dozens of times) and a very intense investigation. The infamous “Red Dog” unit was subsequently “disbanded” (they’d been involved in numerous scandals), but clearly not before many years’ of abuses. In fact they were just renamed as APEX and continue to carry out the same kinds of activities to this day.

I’m just saying, a lot of people have reasons to distrust police, and in addition to that we have the obvious situation in which a powerful institution can release reports that nobody else is fact checking or validating in real time. It has to be done after the fact in an investigation, and by then the facts are old and police have time to alter evidence. Plus, for purely ideological reasons, in everyday life mainstream thinking just accepts whatever police say as the God’s-honest truth unless somebody can without a doubt disprove it, which perverts the idea of the burden of proof. Just this situation alone is setting the whole system up for the kinds of abuses that people all over the country experience every day.

Nobody knows yet what happened (as far as I know) to Ian Murdock. It would be prudent to hold off until we all know more because the initial media storm is not going to be very forthcoming with a consistent narrative that bears the test of time.

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We’re not going to know either. I strongly doubt you’re going to see any long articles full of details on it unless his family pushes for an investigation.

Funny, I read that as outrage his white privilege wasn’t working.

I can see that reading, but I took it as more of a comment on how bad things must be at the bottom of the social scale if even the most privileged classes can be abused. It is a bit hard to wring a definite reading from those very upset texts though - I could be off track too.

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Did Mr. Murdock have known underlying mental illness? My mother-in-law is recovering from a subdural hematoma that made her pretty loopy and weird.

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God fucking damn it. I knew, I fucking knew, that when this story finally hit BoingBoing, the focus would end up being about his bizarre racist tweets instead of, you know, the fact that an influential Free Software advocate was dead.

Look, we don’t know much about what happened yet. All I’ve seen so far is that he started posting stuff about police brutality, then a series of increasingly bizarre, and increasingly racist, tweets. In that, a threat to commit suicide. Then, we found out he’s dead. The one thing I recall from the week is that the tweets were so bizarre and out of character that people were convinced that his Twitter account was hacked.

Maybe we could put the pitchforks away since a.) we don’t know why he posted what he posted, and b.) he’s fucking dead.

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But, but… The outrage must floooow!

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Only 25 posts and you’ve been proved wrong. :cake:

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Although I agree with a big part of your posting, maybe you should also read the comments.
This:

Is simply not true.

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Maybe there’s not much discussion of his death because there’s no information yet. I mean we could all speculate, but there’s already websites for that.

Also, those tweets might be racist, or they might be a weird attempt at a critique of racism. It’s not real clear.

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This is just one of signs of how sick contemporary society in US is. Police (or any sort of authorities) on the scene SHOULD make things better, for everyone involved, especially to a person going through a psychotic episode. Having a breakdown should not by default result in suicide-by-police.

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One of the striking moments for me in the Slate Political Gabfest podcast last year was when Emily Bazelon (a journalist & academic specialising in the Supreme Court) astounded her two fellow-East-Coast-white-professional colleagues by saying she’d almost never call the police to deal with any incident: because the police would almost always make things worse. They were shocked that she felt like that; she was shocked that they didn’t.

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Yup. That’s how it is around here, too. Even the youngest kids know to be wary around the police, if not outright afraid.

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It’s true where I am working. Esp. in professional settings, anything less than full-throated support for the most questionable decisions and insular policies can be met with petulant tantrums and retaliation.

sadly, I never did get potato to install properly. may you rest in peace, ian.

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I feel pretty sure Ian was not claiming entitlement to better treatment due to his socioeconomic status. He was acknowledging his privilege, and using that, I think, to argue that police brutality stems from traits common to police officers, not just racial prejudice. I knew Ian. Not well, but enough to recognize his disjoint rant as uncharacteristic. It seemed a desperate cry for solidarity among victims of police brutality to me. I believe his comments that might reasonably be interpreted as racist, were actually empathetic toward the #BlackLiveMatter movement, however specious and disturbing. He claimed he wanted to raise awareness of the issue of police brutality. Sadly, we paid a high price for very little gain.

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IIRC, he did post a picture of bruises and a laceration. Unfortunately, @imurdock’s twitter timeline has been suspended, so can’t confirm.

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Exactly. I’m the first to call out police brutality and egregious abuse, which is in ample supply these days. But there are three sides to this story, and we know one vaguely. His death is a tragedy, but that’s not reason to blindly jump on the bandwagon of assumption.

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I note without judgement that your own comment fits that very pattern.

It is an emotional time. Be well.

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well, if nobody else is going to post it, i’ll post it:

http://pastebin.com/2shK0rtq
the final tweets on the deleted account

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