Incumbent GOP senator Mark Kirk turns to racism

Tammy has gone by “Tammy” since she was in high school and college down the street from me over 30 years ago.

With due respect, WTF?

Anyone who has the 47 seconds to spare to watch the linked video will see Kirk being a snide jerk and Tammy being a dignified adult.

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Even Trump’s campaign manager thinks Kirk was out of line:

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This 1000 times. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve been asked this. The funny thing is that the asian side of my family has been here far longer than the caucasian side. My grandmother was born in Hawaii long before it was a state. My dad’s side…? His generation is the first one born here in the states.

Nobody assumes that my dad (or his parents) were born elsewhere, or gives it even a bit of a question when they find out. People often express surprise that my Mom, much less my grandmother was born here in the US of too fucking often racist A. That’s not possible! The Slanty Eyes! There’s no way…

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And to challenge the forum even further, I’m going to posit that none of her family is Thai. Her mother is Thai (nationality) of Chinese descent (ethnicity), so… is nobody going to draw that distinction if we’re arguing racism/ethnicity? Or is this one of those “all asians = same” moments?

A comparable situation would be my asian family (Japanese) from Hawaii. They’re not “Hawaiian”, they’re Japanese from Hawaii. We do have some native Hawaiian members of the family that have married in, and their kids can claim (at least partially) that heritage…

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Seems like she only thinks he was out of line for not backing Trump enough, Kirk’s actual comments are just a source of Schadenfreude for that camp because he’s getting heat for it not because they actually think it was bad.

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But he absolutely is.

First of all, the Daughters or Sons of the American Revolution is bullshit to begin with. Its basically saying, “I’m 1/64th or 1/128th related to someone who was here 200 years ago. Go, me!”

But getting over that initial bullshit, Kirk is saying his 1/128th component is more worthy than her 1/128th component, because she also has a 1/2 component that obviously localizes her to Asia (whereas his remaining mongrel 127/128ths do not allow such specific localization). Go, Kirk!

He’s essentially saying “I’m whiter than you!” with the implication “I’m better than you!” Ergo, racism.

[Edit: I get that generic_name was addressing the “explicitness” of the racism, rather than the racism itself. I guess then were down to parsing just what is “explicit”/stated clearly/leaving no room for doubt, and what isn’t. To me, he was stating his racism fairly clearly with no room for doubt. Albeit, I’m certain that when confronted, Kirk himself would say he was not being racist and would pass a polygraph on that question.]

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…out of line for not actively endorsing Trump.

She’s cool with his racist beliefs.

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I just find it interesting that a half-Asian Democratic senatorial candidate is now a proud member of a formerly racist institution, seems pretty American to me.
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This is a big part of the reason why I hesitate to make my membership official. I already live in a very non-diverse neighborhood. And I am afraid I’m gonna run into some Trump supporters; the DAR is often pretty right-leaning.

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Congress?

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Bill Mauldin illustrations always hold a special place for me, especially for stuff like that!

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One of the fun perks of doing genealogy research for others, and interacting with a lot of fellow travelers in that pursuit, is watching the progression of realization as people figure out that some of their ancestors weren’t who they thought they were. And then, how they integrate (or refuse) that new information into their identity.

Each piece is just the truth, not necessarily good or bad. Searching for the truth is not the same thing as race politics. It’s what you do with the information that matters.

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He didn’t turn to racism - he has been an unchallenged racist before this visible racist incident.

He should be ashamed, but he won’t be as he is a Republican and their entire worldview is racist and misogynist, as well as homophobic and ageist.

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I did my part to help her.

As an aside… why the hell is the County Coroner not only an elected position, but a Partisan Elected Position? Illinois is weird.

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But you see, every single one of those incidents was an accident, a poor turn of phrase, perhaps he didnt know what he was saying, how could he know what is racist and what is not when he actively chose to mock her ethnicity?!

You people are so mean.

Depends on whether you think Thai is an ethnicity or a nationality. Chinese descended people have been in Thailand for centuries but are not Thai? :slight_smile:

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Hehehe! Thailand has ethnic Khmers, Shan, even some Cham, and the largest Lao population in the world (quite a bit more than Laos, mainly in the Isan region). Come to think of it, the Royal Family has Mon antecedents, and Taksin the Great (who was deposed by the current dynasty) was ethnic Chinese.

And then, Ayutthaya Thai and Lanna Thai aren’t quite the same people.

I’d say that ethnicity/nationality questions can be particularly vexed in Thailand. :wink:

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We also elect our judges.

Which means we’re allowed to bring anything into the polling booth we might need to help us. Most of us print out cheat sheets from the ABA, ILBA, CBA (American, Illinois, Chicago bar associations) with their determinations of Highly Qualified/Qualified/Not Qualified, because how else would we have a clue?

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So if one party has control of the office then it’s “homicide by firearm” and if the other party has control it’s “organ failure possibly linked to lead exposure?”

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Mine’s not.

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